
The question of whether Luffy could defeat Goku is a popular debate among anime and manga fans, but it ultimately comes down to the context of their respective universes and abilities.
Strengths of Luffy:
- Devil Fruit Powers: As a user of the Gomu Gomu no Mi (now known as Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Nika), Luffy has extraordinary elasticity and the ability to use Gear techniques that enhance his physical abilities.
- Haki: Luffy has mastered all three types of Haki (Observation, Armament, and Conqueror's Haki), which allows him to sense others' presence, enhance his attacks, and exert willpower over opp
The question of whether Luffy could defeat Goku is a popular debate among anime and manga fans, but it ultimately comes down to the context of their respective universes and abilities.
Strengths of Luffy:
- Devil Fruit Powers: As a user of the Gomu Gomu no Mi (now known as Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Nika), Luffy has extraordinary elasticity and the ability to use Gear techniques that enhance his physical abilities.
- Haki: Luffy has mastered all three types of Haki (Observation, Armament, and Conqueror's Haki), which allows him to sense others' presence, enhance his attacks, and exert willpower over opponents.
- Combat Skills: Luffy is an exceptional fighter, known for his creativity in battles and his ability to adapt to various opponents.
Strengths of Goku:
- Saiyan Physiology: Goku can increase his power through training and combat, and he becomes stronger after recovering from near-death experiences.
- Ki Manipulation: Goku can harness and manipulate his ki for powerful attacks, such as the Kamehameha and Spirit Bomb.
- Transformations: Goku has multiple transformations, including Super Saiyan forms, Ultra Instinct, and others, drastically increasing his power level.
- Combat Experience: Goku has fought against numerous powerful foes and has extensive martial arts training.
Conclusion:
In terms of raw power and versatility, Goku typically has the upper hand, especially with his higher levels of transformation and experience against cosmic-level threats. Luffy, while incredibly strong and resourceful, operates within a different scale of power.
In a hypothetical crossover battle, Goku's ability to manipulate ki and access higher power levels would likely give him the edge over Luffy. However, fans often enjoy debating these matchups, as both characters embody different themes and strengths in their respective stories.
This is a picture of Super Saiyan God Goku clashing with Beerus, the God of Destruction.
These clashes sent shockwaves across the entire universe. Just a few of them and the entire universe would crumble. Many planets were already being vaporized by the shockwaves.
What on Earth makes you think a rubber man could even stand a chance against someone like that?
No. Luffy can't defeat Goku.
This is a picture of Super Saiyan God Goku clashing with Beerus, the God of Destruction.
These clashes sent shockwaves across the entire universe. Just a few of them and the entire universe would crumble. Many planets were already being vaporized by the shockwaves.
What on Earth makes you think a rubber man could even stand a chance against someone like that?
No. Luffy can't defeat Goku.
To answer this question, we’d first have to define what Gear Tenth actually is.
Unlike with the continuously ascending Super Saiyan transformations from Dragon Ball that just give Goku and the others access to more and more power and basically work the exact same way as the one before it, Luffy’s Gear abilities are creative applications of his unique Devil Fruit powers.
Gear Second works by compressing Luffy’s blood vessels to increase blood flow, thereby enhancing his strength and speed at the cost of stamina.
Gear Third works by inflating Luffy’s bones to monstrous sizes, increasing his destruc
To answer this question, we’d first have to define what Gear Tenth actually is.
Unlike with the continuously ascending Super Saiyan transformations from Dragon Ball that just give Goku and the others access to more and more power and basically work the exact same way as the one before it, Luffy’s Gear abilities are creative applications of his unique Devil Fruit powers.
Gear Second works by compressing Luffy’s blood vessels to increase blood flow, thereby enhancing his strength and speed at the cost of stamina.
Gear Third works by inflating Luffy’s bones to monstrous sizes, increasing his destructive power at the cost of mobility.
Gear Fourth seems to combine the two concepts of the previous Gears, inflation and compression, applies them to his muscles rather than his blood vessels or bones, and empowers the whole thing with Busoshoku Haki, to explosively increase offense, defense, and speed, at the severe detriment of stamina.
There’s absolutely no way to predict what a Gear Fifth would take the form of, much less a Gear Tenth.
Hum…Well.
First we got Luffy. He has an elastic body, a hypersonic speed, a high durabilty, various techniques, precognition with Haki and is strong enough to destroy an Island ( A big one)
And then we got Goku who can hurt Luffy with his ki and is faster than light and can destroy stars ( in base form in dbs!). Goku and Luffy are just not comparable in fighting. Goku is way stronger than the whole One Piece Universe. But Luffy has the best Manga.
No there is no form of Goku that Luffy can beat. Goku would one-shot Luffy in his base form
because Goku in his base form is strong enough to destroy multiple galaxies while Luffy is at best multi-continental in strength. Luffy needs to be MUCH MUCH stronger to challenge Goku even in his base form.
Peace ✌️
No there is no form of Goku that Luffy can beat. Goku would one-shot Luffy in his base form
because Goku in his base form is strong enough to destroy multiple galaxies while Luffy is at best multi-continental in strength. Luffy needs to be MUCH MUCH stronger to challenge Goku even in his base form.
Peace ✌️
Baby Goku
Every other Goku would obliterate Luffy as they are ranging from Moon Level to possibly Multiversal (depending on if you believe in AP radius expansion)
Baby Goku
Every other Goku would obliterate Luffy as they are ranging from Moon Level to possibly Multiversal (depending on if you believe in AP radius expansion)
Sadly he can’t. While Luffy is a very strong and adaptive fighter, he’s out of his league with Goku. Despite how unique Luffy’s devil fruit powers are along with his insane strength and durability, Goku is simply many times over better in those areas. I’d say one aspect Luffy has an edge with is Haki, since his is only getting more powerful and he has the rarest type. However we don’t know the full limits Luffy can go yet since his Haki and each level of his Gears vastly empowers him.
If anything though, the two are very much alike in their personalities and morals. Both strive to improve their
Sadly he can’t. While Luffy is a very strong and adaptive fighter, he’s out of his league with Goku. Despite how unique Luffy’s devil fruit powers are along with his insane strength and durability, Goku is simply many times over better in those areas. I’d say one aspect Luffy has an edge with is Haki, since his is only getting more powerful and he has the rarest type. However we don’t know the full limits Luffy can go yet since his Haki and each level of his Gears vastly empowers him.
If anything though, the two are very much alike in their personalities and morals. Both strive to improve their fighting skills and protecting their close friends. Both have beaten foes of great power despite the odds, although I feel Luffy has had more outmatched fights then Goku. If it was a serious fight, Luffy would go all out and not back down even if Goku held nothing back and fine with killing him. If anything though the two get along well I think and be eager for a spar.
It be an amazing crossover to see really!
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Goku loses to luffy-🧑🦳
Goku beats luffy obv
Goku loses to luffy-🧑🦳
Goku beats luffy obv
I’ll try my Best to Answer this, Alright… to Start, There are Few Versions of Goku CURRENT Luffy can Beat.
If we count “Filler” Luffy in the Scaling, he was Able to Pretty much Tangle with DBS Base Goku (Before Fighting Beerus), He could Tank a Punch from a Goku and even Land a Hit (But Goku Blocked it), But Goku did not Expect Luffy to be a Rubber.
Gear 2 Luffy also Speedblitzed Toriko and Punched him Easily
Goku also Acknowledged Both of them and he Went Super Saiyan Against Them
Toriko was able to land a Few Hits on Base Goku, who got Punched by Gear 2 Luffy… But when Goku Decided to go SSJ, He
I’ll try my Best to Answer this, Alright… to Start, There are Few Versions of Goku CURRENT Luffy can Beat.
If we count “Filler” Luffy in the Scaling, he was Able to Pretty much Tangle with DBS Base Goku (Before Fighting Beerus), He could Tank a Punch from a Goku and even Land a Hit (But Goku Blocked it), But Goku did not Expect Luffy to be a Rubber.
Gear 2 Luffy also Speedblitzed Toriko and Punched him Easily
Goku also Acknowledged Both of them and he Went Super Saiyan Against Them
Toriko was able to land a Few Hits on Base Goku, who got Punched by Gear 2 Luffy… But when Goku Decided to go SSJ, He not just Powered up but he also used the Kamehameha against Gear 3 Luffy. At the end of the Match, luffy and Goku seemed to be in their Base Forms, Which Means that they got worn out from the Attack.
Base Goku has Power Level Above 50% FF Frieza, but not 100% Frieza Because Beerus Said he cannot Beat Him unless hes in SSJ and that was Before Training when Beerus Showed up.
SSJ Goku>>Gear 3 Luffy~>Base Goku~>Gear 2 Luffy~~50% FF Frieza>>Base Luffy
<This Fight was like 450 Episodes ago, Luffy got MUCH Stronger… For Example, Its Confirmed that Base Luffy can beat Gear 4 Luffy when Fighting Kaido, Gear 4 Luffy got beat by Kaido but when Luffy Trained he was able to Fight Kaido much longer in Base Form. This is the One Piece World, It is 8 to 10 Times Bigger then Earth.
So Lets get Things Straight…
A Town in One Piece World is Bigger than a City in our World
An Island in One Piece World is Bigger than a Continent in our World
A Country in One Piece World is Bigger than the World in our World
A Continent in One Piece World is as big as Uranus (Debatable)
The World in One Piece is as Big as Saturn
(Just to make my Point)
This is my Headcannon tho, Since One Piece World is 10 Times Bigger than Earth, I can Guess that Much… But anyways, Blackbeard Easily Destroyed a Country which is of Course Planetary thing. That was a Pre Timeskip Blackbeard.
To us, A Country in One Piece World is Bigger than our World.
If thats what Blackbeard can Do, Imagine what Whitebeard can do. Because hes MUCH Stronger than Blackbeard… Whitebeard was able to Destroy Water (Which is Mass) just by Punching Air.
Not just that, But he made a Tsunami, if Aokiji didn’t use his Ability to Freeze it Most of the People on Marinford would’ve died… He made an Earthquake and Changed the Weather as well.
Sengoku Himself Said Whitebard can Destroy the World.
That “World” in Question is as Big as Saturn, Our World Pales in Comparison to Saturn…
If you think that Debate is Over your sadly Mistaken, Whitebeard is the Strongest Pirate and that was an Old Version of Him, Not to Mention his Illness was holding some of his Powers back…
So I’d Put Prime Whitebeard to Multi Star Level, I got a Question tho. Is Whitebeard STILL the Strongest Pirate? Idk about that, Luffy Should Surpass Whitebeard after 500 Episodes later, Especially in his Gear 5 Form.
When Luffy Punched Kaido, he made the Clouds Separate
But if we use the Statement of Yamato, She Said Luffy Split Heaven (?)
If she meant the Sky or the Clouds, Then thats still a Good Feat… As Saitama did this by Punching, But Saitama made more Clouds Separated than Luffy did, And People Compare SSJ3 Goku to Saitama.
If she really Meant “Heaven” that way, then Heaven is Bigger than the World (Source is Religion)
The Next argument is that Luffy is Given the Nickname as “Sun God” or “Nika”, His Hair also Looks like the Sun, By “Sun God” do they mean Luffy is Superior to the Sun in Everyway which means he can Destroy the Sun? This would Lead Luffy to Multi Star Level, But Regardless of the Nickname, I would Put Gear 5 Luffy to Multi Solar System Level (I’ll tell you why)
Returning to Goku vs Luffy argument… Even if it was Filler, Toei Animation Animated it, Which is an Official Fight, Toei is just Showing us how a Luffy vs Goku Fight would go, Of Course it wont be Cannon, I would say the Fight is Cannon but if Toei says the Episode is Cannon It would make the Fans Believe the Crossover is Cannon as well… So I believe this Fight was Cannon, Oda and Toriyama Would’ve Sued Toei for Scaling Luffy and Goku, But I think they Know about the Fight so they do not Approve the Episode being Cannon.
But if you Procceed and Insist on Saying “Ah ThiS WaS JuSt FIlLeR aNd ThEy MaDe GokU WeAker or MadE LuFfy StRoNgeR”
If you really think thats the case, Then your Point is that
-Kid Goku
-can Beat
This Goku?
Since yall say “KiD GoKu SoLoS LuFfY”, No Im not Delusional to DB Fans… But its just that DB Fans says that to Literally EVERYONE After Scaling Goku against Naruto, Madara or Kaido.
Or you Might Say the Luffy that Fought Goku can Beat Cannon Luffy
Then your Point is that
-This Luffy
-can beat
This Luffy?
I dont Think So, Both Luffy’s are the Same Person, Except Gear 5 Luffy is MUCH Stronger than the Luffy that Fought Goku, Luffy only had Gear 4 at the Time. Both Goku’s are Also the same Person, Except TUI Goku is MUCH Stronger than the Goku that Fought Luffy, Goku only had SSJ3 at the time
(Sorry that Im saying this for Both, but Im again proving my point🙃)
Going back to this Question, “Which versions of Goku can Gear 5 Luffy Beat?”.
- >He can Beat Piccolo Saga Goku
2. >He can Beat Raditz Saga Goku
3. >He can Beat Saiyan Saga Goku
4. >He can Beat Namek Saga Goku
5. >He can Beat Frieza Saga Goku
6. >He can Beat Android Saga Goku
7. >He can Beat Cell Saga Goku
8. = He Stops at Buu Saga Goku
9. - He Loses to KB saga Goku
10. - He Loses to BOG Saga Goku
11. - He Loses to SSJG Goku (In BOG Saga)
12. - He Loses to ROF Saga Goku
13. - He Loses to U6 Saga Goku
14. - He Loses to TOP Saga Goku
15. - He Loses to Moro Saga Goku
16. - He Loses to Granolah Saga Goku
17 - He Loses to SH Saga Goku
I know its weird that I said EVERY Version of Goku, But Tell me what you think😅
Gear 5 Luffy would win. He has the sun fruit and rubber that would overwhelme Goku. Plus he also has to on force as well.
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You think just because Luffy got a new form means he can beat Goku?
Please tell me when has Luffy or any One Piece character shown Planetary to Solar System feats. Let alone Universal or Multiversal.
Even yamaha smacks the verse
Gear 5 Luffy would win. He has the sun fruit and rubber that would overwhelme Goku. Plus he also has to on force as well.
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You think just because Luffy got a new form means he can beat Goku?
Please tell me when has Luffy or any One Piece character shown Planetary to Solar System feats. Let alone Universal or Multiversal.
Even yamaha smacks the verse
You must be trolling at this point… Luffy’s best feat at the moment is when he defeated Kaido. A suppressed Kaido that was able to do this:
So at best, Luffy is around continental level, maybe even higher due to the unknown capabilities of Gear 5. Meanwhile, Goku on the other hand was about to destroy his macrocosm (which is comprised of an infinite universe, and debatably multiple 4d realms) in his Super Saiyan God form.
In which he absorbed this form into his base, giving him God Ki. This makes base Goku at least universal, which puts him leagues above Luffy. Unless you make the argument that
You must be trolling at this point… Luffy’s best feat at the moment is when he defeated Kaido. A suppressed Kaido that was able to do this:
So at best, Luffy is around continental level, maybe even higher due to the unknown capabilities of Gear 5. Meanwhile, Goku on the other hand was about to destroy his macrocosm (which is comprised of an infinite universe, and debatably multiple 4d realms) in his Super Saiyan God form.
In which he absorbed this form into his base, giving him God Ki. This makes base Goku at least universal, which puts him leagues above Luffy. Unless you make the argument that Luffy is above fiction due to this statement:
But the statement of “only limited by their imagination”, is very vague, and we haven’t been shown the capabilities of what it can do. So as of right now, Goku negs the OP verse.
No, he can’t. The power scaling in both verses is vastly different: one verse has gone from building to moon to planetary to solar system to low multiversal. The other verse has gone from building level to multi continental, with star level at maximum high balls using Vs Battle wiki calcs. There’s really no comparison between them.
To put it into perspective; think of an ordinary Marine soldier.
They aren’t anything special, as they’re comparable to our soldiers in terms of physicality. Now, group up those soldiers, and tell them that they have to take on the World’s Strongest Swordsman, Mihawk.
No, he can’t. The power scaling in both verses is vastly different: one verse has gone from building to moon to planetary to solar system to low multiversal. The other verse has gone from building level to multi continental, with star level at maximum high balls using Vs Battle wiki calcs. There’s really no comparison between them.
To put it into perspective; think of an ordinary Marine soldier.
They aren’t anything special, as they’re comparable to our soldiers in terms of physicality. Now, group up those soldiers, and tell them that they have to take on the World’s Strongest Swordsman, Mihawk.
You know, a dude who can slice up meteors (non-canon, I know, but the point stands).
A an ordinary human, you’d die if any ordinary bullet hit you, never mind a meteor.
Now, imagine your commanding officer ordering you to take on this certified menace. Who wins, the soldier or Mihawk?
And in case you haven’t gotten the gist of this analogy, Luffy is the soldier, and Goku is Mihawk. Just dial up Mihawk by infinity, and we get Goku.
Luffy, at this point in the series isn’t even the strongest in his own verse. If he were to take on Roger, Primebeard and Garp, he’s get sent to the shadow realm.
No amount of cartoony powers will save Luffy from a serious thrashing. Goku can tank anything, and everything that Luffy throws at him because he out scales him bad.
Literally any One Piece character ends up looking like this after a bout with Krillin.
Adios.
A good battle would be pre Korin training Kid Goku in DB.
They are both about continent level, but Goku was still potential Moon level so he would win. Luffy’s greatest feat is destroying an island.
Enemy form above that would one shot Luffy with the swipe of a finger.
No
Not with what we have seen him do in Gear 5. We see him get hurt a lot even when he transforms into Gear 5th.
People make a big deal of him fighting like a cartoon character saying he has toon force and can beat anybody using the power of imagination. His toon force isn’t that strong it has limits or else he ...
No
Not with what we have seen him do in Gear 5. We see him get hurt a lot even when he transforms into Gear 5th.
People make a big deal of him fighting like a cartoon character saying he has toon force and can beat anybody using the power of imagination. His toon force isn’t that strong it has limits or else he ...
for real though, the answer is
We still haven’t seen much of Luffy’s new powers, but if you think he can beat someone who is universal with extreme lowball, then here, I got a nice bed for you.
You need some rest
for real though, the answer is
We still haven’t seen much of Luffy’s new powers, but if you think he can beat someone who is universal with extreme lowball, then here, I got a nice bed for you.
You need some rest
No, not by a long shot. Goku is in a realm that Luffy would never dream about. At best, I can only see Luffy surpassing Nappa.
Goku wins this. As much as I love luffy more, Goku has just shown far more power and far better feats. Luffy at best as of right now is MultiContinental to Moon Level. Goku has been above that level since saiyan saga. Luffy likely will reach higher levels but it won't be anything close to where Goku is right now. So Goku Destroys.
That is unless it's composite luffy from the games like Jump Force, J Stars Victory, or the One Piece x DBZ x Toriko special, but most of the time composite versions of characters aren't discussed very often.
Thanks for reading
Goku wins this. As much as I love luffy more, Goku has just shown far more power and far better feats. Luffy at best as of right now is MultiContinental to Moon Level. Goku has been above that level since saiyan saga. Luffy likely will reach higher levels but it won't be anything close to where Goku is right now. So Goku Destroys.
That is unless it's composite luffy from the games like Jump Force, J Stars Victory, or the One Piece x DBZ x Toriko special, but most of the time composite versions of characters aren't discussed very often.
Thanks for reading
No. Goku is simply so ridiculously beyond the power of Luffy that Luffy will never catch up to him. It's like comparing the power of a dustmite to a supernova, they are in two completely different leagues.
One Piece as a story is at least a reasonable distance beyond the half-way point. So far the top-tier characters in the story have topped out at island levels of destructive power. Over nearly 1000 manga chapters characters like Luffy have only achieved island levels of destructive power (with a bit of high-balling, actually). Goku, on the other hand, had achieved planetary levels of destruct
No. Goku is simply so ridiculously beyond the power of Luffy that Luffy will never catch up to him. It's like comparing the power of a dustmite to a supernova, they are in two completely different leagues.
One Piece as a story is at least a reasonable distance beyond the half-way point. So far the top-tier characters in the story have topped out at island levels of destructive power. Over nearly 1000 manga chapters characters like Luffy have only achieved island levels of destructive power (with a bit of high-balling, actually). Goku, on the other hand, had achieved planetary levels of destructive ability by the end of the first arc of DBZ, universal levels of destructive ability by the end of the first arc of DB Super, and has grown thousands of times stronger since. The power progression between these two series is fundamentally different, Dragon Ball escalates the powers of its characters at insane rates that dwarf the escalation in One Piece. Even if One Piece were to suddenly ramp up its power escalation massively (which it shouldn't do), they would have to increase the power of the main characters trillions of times over to even reach planetary levels of destructive power and compete with early DBZ characters. This is an absurd escalation that will NOT happen, at least assuming Oda has any writing sense (which he clearly does).
All that being said, we shouldn't want Luffy to become as powerful as Goku. The power system and power escalation that Oda has set up for One Piece already works well for the series, it is not something that should be changed in such an insane way. Just because Goku is more powerful and Luffy is far weaker doesn't make either of them inherently better or worse characters than the other. Power does not make a great character, good writing and story-crafting make a good character. Luffy's charcter is good at the power he is at, he'll certainly become stronger in the future but there is no legitimate reason to make him millions or quintillions of times stronger. That would be poor storytelling. One Piece is a story that would not function well if it had characters who could casually blow up planets with their punches.
Luffy has many transformations but let's just say it was between Luffy's current strongest form (Gear 4th) against Goku's Super Sayain 3. Gear 4th pretty much destroyed Dolfamingo and whatever was left of Dressrosa, Luffy was a wrecking machine that was not only able to increase his strength but speed and became more more versatile to the point that he can change the direction of his attacks as he was doing them making it harder to dodge and he was even resistant to Dolflamingo's Attacks
Luffy ragdolling Dolfamingo with ease while showing off his new versatility
Luffy Destroying the rest of Dres
Luffy has many transformations but let's just say it was between Luffy's current strongest form (Gear 4th) against Goku's Super Sayain 3. Gear 4th pretty much destroyed Dolfamingo and whatever was left of Dressrosa, Luffy was a wrecking machine that was not only able to increase his strength but speed and became more more versatile to the point that he can change the direction of his attacks as he was doing them making it harder to dodge and he was even resistant to Dolflamingo's Attacks
Luffy ragdolling Dolfamingo with ease while showing off his new versatility
Luffy Destroying the rest of Dressrosa
Gear 4th is unbelievably powerful but that power has limits for example it can only last 10 minutes and once the time is up not only is Luffy unable use Haki but he is left very weakened afterwards to the point that he can barely move and even after his also 10 minute recovery time he his still left pretty weak and even his Haki wasn't as tough as it should of been
I’ll lowball GOku to ssj3 since god and blue we have to go of what characters say abut feats and that’s not too reliable.
Super sayain 3 Goku is a monster, simply powering up caused Tsunamis and earthquakes to the planet and when Goku first used Super Sayain 3 the transformation itself took awhile to get into but in battle of gods it seems that Goku has mastered Super Sayain 3 and was able to transform very quickly
SSJ3 Goku literally punched a hole through King Kai's planet and the gravity is 10 times heavier of that of Earth
SSJ3 is 8 times the power SSJ2 thus making Goku 400 times stronger than his base form. He easily outmatched Fat Buu and was capable of beating Kid Buu but thanks to Kid Buu's regeneration he couldn't. Of course even if Goku wasn't in SSJ3 he could still blow up planets with ease so imagine how easy it would be 400 times stronger than his normal self
Goku's durability in SSJ3 is also unbelievable being able to take Kid Buu's attacks and get right back up to fight and if you wanna count the Fusion Reborn movie Goku took multiple sword slashes while exhausted. the same goes for his endurance, as exhausting as SSJ3 is Goku can still fight for long periods of time
Super Sayain 3 does take up a lot of energy but even when Goku is out of the form he can still transform into a Super Sayain and fight so this drawback isn't even close to as bad as Luffy's in Gear 4th
I love One Piece and Dragon Ball /Z/super but Goku vs Luffy in any way shape or form is a squash match resulting in Luffy being turned into dust
Goku wins pretty much no matter what.
Yes
Luffy can beat every version of Kid Goku and possible beginning of DBZ Goku.
I wrote a similar answer on this topic,
Now, I would like to correct something in the above answer,
I claimed that Kid Goku was LS but this scan proves the opposite,
So, Kid Goku was only around the speed of Lightning which is much slower then LS.
So Luffy can just blitz any version of Goku which scales below Light speed. Durability negation will take care of Goku’s durability, so there is not much Goku will be able to do against Luffy.
Read the answer I shared above for the scaling.
And be respectful
Yes
Luffy can beat every version of Kid Goku and possible beginning of DBZ Goku.
I wrote a similar answer on this topic,
Now, I would like to correct something in the above answer,
I claimed that Kid Goku was LS but this scan proves the opposite,
So, Kid Goku was only around the speed of Lightning which is much slower then LS.
So Luffy can just blitz any version of Goku which scales below Light speed. Durability negation will take care of Goku’s durability, so there is not much Goku will be able to do against Luffy.
Read the answer I shared above for the scaling.
And be respectful in the comment section.
Please stop using this term… it’s definitely not toon force. Luffy didn’t break any rules of One Piece, Oda didn’t make him overpowered.
He just now has all the freedom, a rubber body gives him, which is perfectly explainable.
I don’t know why everyone thinks, this is something completely new, it isn’t. We‘re seeing a rubber man doing rubber things.
I will explain every move he has done in the latest chapter with One Piece inverse rules and that it’s definetely not some magic or „toon force“ he‘s using.
Here‘s he was just inside of Kaido‘s dragon body. It’s not that the anatomy of One Piece charac
Please stop using this term… it’s definitely not toon force. Luffy didn’t break any rules of One Piece, Oda didn’t make him overpowered.
He just now has all the freedom, a rubber body gives him, which is perfectly explainable.
I don’t know why everyone thinks, this is something completely new, it isn’t. We‘re seeing a rubber man doing rubber things.
I will explain every move he has done in the latest chapter with One Piece inverse rules and that it’s definetely not some magic or „toon force“ he‘s using.
Here‘s he was just inside of Kaido‘s dragon body. It’s not that the anatomy of One Piece characters is always explainable. That’s a fucking Dragon about 1000 Meter long, for sure his „human“ anatomy doesn’t go with it.
And Luffy was btw already inside of a giant „serpent“, Nola.
Luffy‘s fruit is able to turn him fully into rubber, what he did here was just him doing that.
Again, completely normal, he just used Balloon, which he used like 100 times now.
This one is obviously more of a gag scene, as we’ve seen hundreds of times. It’s to portray Luffy’s flexibility. He‘s not breaking any rules, that was just a simple Rocket trying to leave Kaido‘s mouth. Again, the anatomy of Kaido‘s dragon eyes isn’t the same as his human eyes. But again, Luffy did that already once with Nola, the giant serpent.
Besides:
Usopp literall defeated Sugar with that look, he is also not breaking any rules here.
Again, nothing special. He was just bouncing into the cloud, Luffy is completely immune to lightning, that’s it.
That‘s basically just a full body Gear 3, nothing special. The range of his rubber body increased with the awakening, he can do way more now, but it’s still in the realm of rubber possibilities.
Again, nothing special, he just grabbed him and spins him around, which is completely normal for a giant like creature that has the power to split the sky with just clashing. This is sheer power, but Luffy is just being playful here.
That’s the awakening of his Paramecia fruit, he can turn his surroundings into rubber and walked back on it. We’re talking here about Lightspeed characters, being so fast doesn’t break any rule.
Again, completely normal, especially if you consider him to be a freaking rubber man, he can do everything with his rubber body. And btw:
He was using most of his energy and drains out of it. Is is widely known that Luffy‘s energy drains far faster than everyone else‘s, but also that he as more.
This was him just a few hours without food:
This here was just his Zoan property’s, we‘ve seen that awakened Zoan users are able to recover from such things in an instant in Impel down.
Again, nothing special, just rubber properties. You can also clearly see that it hurts Luffy, mainly because Kaido is using Haki.
We’ve seen him punching people like that several times.
Again, we‘re talking here about supernatural humans and devil fruit users who can change their body into dragons, smoke, rubber etc. deforming their faces isn’t something new.
So to answer your question, no he doesn’t defeat Goku, he‘s not using toon force.
He just became massively stronger and doesn’t know how to use his powers exactly. He is trying out a bit and the fruit somehow makes him laughing more. The fruit just enables him to fight „freely“ and influence his surroundings. It’s basically a mix of awakened Zoan and awakened Paramecia.
Zoan awakening influences you (by having way more regeneration, power, wider range of abilites and the complete shaping of your body proportions) and Paramecia is influencing others (by turning your surroundings into rubber and enhancing rubber properties in general).
Thank you~
Not in a million years.
Nika Luffy’s most powerful attack, the Bajrang Gun is calced at around Multi-Continental.
Goku’s been stronger than this since 35 years ago.
I get all the hype around Gear 5 in anime, but there’s levels to this lmao
Not in a million years.
Nika Luffy’s most powerful attack, the Bajrang Gun is calced at around Multi-Continental.
Goku’s been stronger than this since 35 years ago.
I get all the hype around Gear 5 in anime, but there’s levels to this lmao
No.
Goku is the Super Saiya-jin God of Earth. He is “friends” with the God of Destruction Beerus.
Luffy would be f***ing wiped off the face of the f***ing Earth. No motherf***ing little pirate’s gonna stop a God capable of destroying the world, galaxy, and universe.
I mean, Goku in Namek saga gather power from multiple suns and still unable to defeat Frieza…..
So even assumed to be “God Of Sun”, the result would still be like this
That’s all from me.
I mean, Goku in Namek saga gather power from multiple suns and still unable to defeat Frieza…..
So even assumed to be “God Of Sun”, the result would still be like this
That’s all from me.
Let's assume they're all on Earth, stopping Goku from simply destroying the planet. Each at their top strength and highest transformation.
I see it as a game of speed at this point, Luffy can probably take a few hits but in this regard he's out of the battle before it begins because he can't keep up with either of the other combatants.
Naruto would be fast enough to dodge most of Gokus attacks in every transformation south of UI, once goku went UI Naruto would be completely overwhelmed but let's assume UI is off the table for some reason.
All Goku needs is a single landed attack and Naruto is fin
Let's assume they're all on Earth, stopping Goku from simply destroying the planet. Each at their top strength and highest transformation.
I see it as a game of speed at this point, Luffy can probably take a few hits but in this regard he's out of the battle before it begins because he can't keep up with either of the other combatants.
Naruto would be fast enough to dodge most of Gokus attacks in every transformation south of UI, once goku went UI Naruto would be completely overwhelmed but let's assume UI is off the table for some reason.
All Goku needs is a single landed attack and Naruto is finished, this man sends people into the sun with his attacks and routinely fights gods and otherworldly planet destroyers. So while Naruto may be able to dodge and get a few hits off I doubt he'd have the power to damage Goku even if he stood still
I made this question to answer this question,
The answer is……..
HECK NO
Gogeta broke reality with a single Ki Blast Clash with Broly, both were only at SSJ. The fact that SSB has a wayyyyy higher multiplier, imagine what Gogeta SSB and Broly LSSJ could have done. I ain’t seeing Luffy competing with that.
So yea, Luffy cannot and will never be able to defeat Gogeta
(Bonus) Ok so like the time I posted this I found out LN/Lightnovel was a thing.
Basically LN is a thing that makes you way stronger than you were before (I think only fans use this thing)
So like I was thinking about what I said “The fact
I made this question to answer this question,
The answer is……..
HECK NO
Gogeta broke reality with a single Ki Blast Clash with Broly, both were only at SSJ. The fact that SSB has a wayyyyy higher multiplier, imagine what Gogeta SSB and Broly LSSJ could have done. I ain’t seeing Luffy competing with that.
So yea, Luffy cannot and will never be able to defeat Gogeta
(Bonus) Ok so like the time I posted this I found out LN/Lightnovel was a thing.
Basically LN is a thing that makes you way stronger than you were before (I think only fans use this thing)
So like I was thinking about what I said “The fact that SSB has a wayyyyy higher multiplier, imagine what Gogeta SSB and Broly LSSJ could have done.” Bro LN SSB Gogeta and LN LSSJ Broly would have been wayy worse than just SSB and LSSJ clashing. Could have destroyed other universe’s reality’s. Another thing that I wanted to say is that Broly pushed Gogeta out of the broken reality INTO reality. Yea bro, thats the guy Gogeta is competing with. Gogeta didn’t have a single scratch while fighting Broly, and Broly was able to push him out of a broken reality INTO reality. The thing is Gogeta can destroy planets or he could destroy and shake his universe with a single shockwave. Bud Luffy ain’t gonna get a chance.
Gogeta is beyond multiverse in teirs
Gokh has enough strength and speed to take them both on at the same time.
Goku is much faster and stronger than the ninja and the pirate it's not even funny. Naruto is Star level at absolute best with a little wank while Luffy is arguably continental. Goku can be easily argued to be Multiversal at this point in DB.
Winner:Son Goku
Gokh has enough strength and speed to take them both on at the same time.
Goku is much faster and stronger than the ninja and the pirate it's not even funny. Naruto is Star level at absolute best with a little wank while Luffy is arguably continental. Goku can be easily argued to be Multiversal at this point in DB.
Winner:Son Goku
Buddy, I think the answer is clear, N O. Here’s why,
Goku went head-to-head with a God in his (NEW) transformation lets make it clear that Goku and Beerus
Shook their universe with only one punch clash, lets also make it clear this is Goku’s first time using this form.
Another reason is that Goku has mastered a technique that Gods have not. You heard me right, GODS have not mastered this technique. Goku is not a deity and is a mortal. He has mastered something not even the best God Of Destruction could.
Let’s see what else…. oh yea right, his friend Piccolo could take out a moon with ease at a Pow
Buddy, I think the answer is clear, N O. Here’s why,
Goku went head-to-head with a God in his (NEW) transformation lets make it clear that Goku and Beerus
Shook their universe with only one punch clash, lets also make it clear this is Goku’s first time using this form.
Another reason is that Goku has mastered a technique that Gods have not. You heard me right, GODS have not mastered this technique. Goku is not a deity and is a mortal. He has mastered something not even the best God Of Destruction could.
Let’s see what else…. oh yea right, his friend Piccolo could take out a moon with ease at a Power Level near 900+.
Goku now has a Power Level in the Septillions (This is in UI Forms tho not Base) imagine what Goku can do now. Shake the Multiverse, Shake the Universe, etc.
Now… Tell me, how in the world, universe, and MULTIVERSE can
Luffy
Beat
Goku?
Depends. Current Sengoku? If current Sengoku, Luffy could fight him. With Luffy’s Gear 5 he could trade punches probably. They both have god-like DFs. Luffy has the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Sun God Nika, and Sengoku has the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu. He would probably lose at first. Also, if Luffy fights Sengoku, it would be when he launches a full on war against the Admirals and the Marines. Well, Sengoku is currently re-signed from the Marines. But still, he probably will win.
Former Fleet Admiral Sengoku though is a different story. Luffy would probably get packed up. Like, packed up p
Depends. Current Sengoku? If current Sengoku, Luffy could fight him. With Luffy’s Gear 5 he could trade punches probably. They both have god-like DFs. Luffy has the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Sun God Nika, and Sengoku has the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu. He would probably lose at first. Also, if Luffy fights Sengoku, it would be when he launches a full on war against the Admirals and the Marines. Well, Sengoku is currently re-signed from the Marines. But still, he probably will win.
Former Fleet Admiral Sengoku though is a different story. Luffy would probably get packed up. Like, packed up packed up. Sengoku probably lost a portion of his strength with the 2 year time skip.
Prime Sengoku? The is no show called One Piece. The main character would be the fat imitation of Luffy.
Goku Stomps. Easy peasy and Squishy.
Not even a contest, Goku is MFTL and Low multiversal. Luffy barely country to continent.
Goku Stomps. Easy peasy and Squishy.
Not even a contest, Goku is MFTL and Low multiversal. Luffy barely country to continent.
Goku
He’s stronger in every category and his Ki attacks could get passed luffy’s Fruit ability
Goku
He’s stronger in every category and his Ki attacks could get passed luffy’s Fruit ability
i don’t think so. Goku more powerful than lufy he can easily defeat luffy
Non canon forms of goku?
CC goku solos one piece
xeno goku solos one piece
Drip goku solos one piece
Canon forms goku?
Goku base still claps
Oh and to that guy that keeps telling people that just because goku coudent defeat a god of destruction means that he woudent deafeat sun god form luffy,i have 2 things to say to you
1:”god”is just a title,you could name a being that can only destroy moutains and island “gods” because the common folk think that they are gods
2:there is a massive massive massive massive power gap between one piece gods and dbs gods,dont compare them unless you want one piece to lo
Non canon forms of goku?
CC goku solos one piece
xeno goku solos one piece
Drip goku solos one piece
Canon forms goku?
Goku base still claps
Oh and to that guy that keeps telling people that just because goku coudent defeat a god of destruction means that he woudent deafeat sun god form luffy,i have 2 things to say to you
1:”god”is just a title,you could name a being that can only destroy moutains and island “gods” because the common folk think that they are gods
2:there is a massive massive massive massive power gap between one piece gods and dbs gods,dont compare them unless you want one piece to lool like pathetic child.
Thats all from me
Maybe Kid Goku, Maybe he can’t even as Kid Goku is above Multi-Continental, He is Moon+ Level.
And Luffy only beat him in Speed, FTL vs Relativistic Kid Goku. But Kid Goku in AP and DC stomps.
Maybe Kid Goku, Maybe he can’t even as Kid Goku is above Multi-Continental, He is Moon+ Level.
And Luffy only beat him in Speed, FTL vs Relativistic Kid Goku. But Kid Goku in AP and DC stomps.
In my opinion luffy can't defeat Goku. Because of Goku's fight with beerus the whole universe was in danger of destruction. He is at the same level of gods. Whereas luffy can't even destroy a planet only.
Yes. Quite easily.
If it were someone like Naruto or Natsu to a degree, I wouldn’t be as confident in saying that, since most of the dangers in the One Piece world is traveling around the world, learning how to get to where you need to go and the many dangers you could encounter on the way. The issue is…Goku can quite easily get around these dangers. Here are some of the factors that enable him to easily survive this world.
#1: FLIGHT
Goku being able to fly at incredible speeds is a major factor in his survival of this world. The only real way to get around for One Piece characters is by boat (un
Yes. Quite easily.
If it were someone like Naruto or Natsu to a degree, I wouldn’t be as confident in saying that, since most of the dangers in the One Piece world is traveling around the world, learning how to get to where you need to go and the many dangers you could encounter on the way. The issue is…Goku can quite easily get around these dangers. Here are some of the factors that enable him to easily survive this world.
#1: FLIGHT
Goku being able to fly at incredible speeds is a major factor in his survival of this world. The only real way to get around for One Piece characters is by boat (unless you’re crazy like Aokiji and you decide to take a bicycle). This leaves you vulnerable to many different dangers of the vast One Piece oceans. Sea Kings, ridiculous weather (raining lightning, hail the size of meteors), enemy pirates etc etc.
But since Goku can fly…He can avoid any of these dangers. Whether it be on the Flying Nimbus, or just flying around on his own. It’d be no issue for him to go from island to island.
#2: INSTANT TRANSMISSION
Much like flight, this would enable Goku to travel anywhere he likes and avoid all the dangers of the One Piece oceans. The only issue with this is that he needs to focus on someone’s ki. Sensing someone’s ki wouldn’t necessarily be the problem…But who he’s locked onto would be.
Generally, when he uses instant transmission, he knows who he’s locking onto because he knows what his friends and foes’ energies feel like when sensing them. However, he wouldn’t know anyone in this verse (unless we count the crossover between DBZ, One Piece and Toriko lol). So he’d just be guessing that someone would be on an island somewhere in a safe location for him to teleport to, even though they could be anywhere!
Not that it would matter much where he goes, due to the next point…
#3: STRONGEST IN THE WORLD
Goku would easily be the strongest person—No, thing in the One Piece world, no question. It really wouldn’t matter where he appeared because, save for some hax, there’s not much that the verse could do to Goku that would pose much of a danger. So in short…
GOKU COULD EASILY SURVIVE IN THE ONE PIECE WORLD
He has all the stats and powers he needs to casually live in this world. He’s easily the strongest thing in the world, and he can casually avoid any and all dangers of the One Piece oceans when traveling between islands, not that they pose much of a threat to begin with.
No, he isn’t beating Goku, or anyone who is above moon level. Spoilers for those who don’t read the manga, and are waiting for the anime adaptation. This is your only warning.
Luffy is a Mythical Zoan user: his Devil Fruit is actually named the Hito Hito No Mi: Model Nika.
Sure, he was rag-dolling Kaido.
And the events were portrayed in a comedic manner.
However, he doesn’t have Toon Force, or whatever One Piece wankers like to claim.
Their battle in chapter 1042 was also depicted in a somewhat comedic light.
Until Luffy shows much better feats, he isn’t taking on a guy who is low multiversal (if yo
No, he isn’t beating Goku, or anyone who is above moon level. Spoilers for those who don’t read the manga, and are waiting for the anime adaptation. This is your only warning.
Luffy is a Mythical Zoan user: his Devil Fruit is actually named the Hito Hito No Mi: Model Nika.
Sure, he was rag-dolling Kaido.
And the events were portrayed in a comedic manner.
However, he doesn’t have Toon Force, or whatever One Piece wankers like to claim.
Their battle in chapter 1042 was also depicted in a somewhat comedic light.
Until Luffy shows much better feats, he isn’t taking on a guy who is low multiversal (if you disagree on low multi DB, hop on Discord and ping Jiren Rider).
We’re talking here about normal punches without any special moves, just blunt force? In that case, yes he can.
That has nothing to do with the strength of these punches, just the way they work. Now of course Goku scales massively higher than Luffy in any regards. We’re talking here about a universal+ character punching a multi continental - planetary character at best. The difference is so massive that Goku could wipe out Luffy just by charging up his Ki.
However the question was about normal punches, so blunt force.
In this case he is pretty much immune to it. Keep in mind we’re talking here abo
We’re talking here about normal punches without any special moves, just blunt force? In that case, yes he can.
That has nothing to do with the strength of these punches, just the way they work. Now of course Goku scales massively higher than Luffy in any regards. We’re talking here about a universal+ character punching a multi continental - planetary character at best. The difference is so massive that Goku could wipe out Luffy just by charging up his Ki.
However the question was about normal punches, so blunt force.
In this case he is pretty much immune to it. Keep in mind we’re talking here about blunt force. It’s not the same as all physical attacks. As some people don’t seem to get the difference.
A physical attack is the overall summary of all kinds of attacks being done to the physical body. This includes cutting (from swords for example), shockwave & impact attacks etc.
The physical attack from Moria above is purely blunt force which is why it had no effect on Luffy.
Someone like Lucci for example can damage him, because he used a sort of shockwave to bypass Luffy‘s rubber. It’s still a physical attack, but no blunt force.
Now I hope I made it clear, but to answer the question, yes Luffy can Tank Goku’s normal punches as long as they’re pure blunt force. If Goku wants to, he can put some shockwaves into his punches and thus indeed damage Luffy.
And yes, I know the following gif is from a non-canon special, but we‘ve already seen Goku punching Luffy.
Although this is non-canon this seems to be the likely outcome if Goku tried to punch Luffy with a normal punch.
Hope that helps, thank you.
Well the short answers is yes. So lets look at kaido’s best feat so far
Clashing with a another Yonko which should be a large island level attack.
And here is a feat from your average dragon ball character…
Goku Currently is a million times stronger than what was Just shown so Goku would one shot Kaido ZERO difficulty.
Peace ✌️
here have a donut :)
Well the short answers is yes. So lets look at kaido’s best feat so far
Clashing with a another Yonko which should be a large island level attack.
And here is a feat from your average dragon ball character…
Goku Currently is a million times stronger than what was Just shown so Goku would one shot Kaido ZERO difficulty.
Peace ✌️
here have a donut :)
Do you really think Goku is all about punching? And where did you see that as i don't believe there was a DB and OP crossover that was Canon
Anyways by saying Luffy is completly immune to punches is false. There are plenty of instance of luffy getting hurt by punches like
And
So Luffy being immune to punches seems wrong. But being highly resistant to Blunt force is a much better thing to say.
So what would happen if Goku Punched Luffy?
Simply enough Luffy would get one shotted as Foxy and Franky was able to punch Luffy and he seemed hurt. How would a Universal cha
Do you really think Goku is all about punching? And where did you see that as i don't believe there was a DB and OP crossover that was Canon
Anyways by saying Luffy is completly immune to punches is false. There are plenty of instance of luffy getting hurt by punches like
And
So Luffy being immune to punches seems wrong. But being highly resistant to Blunt force is a much better thing to say.
So what would happen if Goku Punched Luffy?
Simply enough Luffy would get one shotted as Foxy and Franky was able to punch Luffy and he seemed hurt. How would a Universal charecter punch a Mountain Level Charecter.
Goku Wins in Base Form even before Kaioken.
Let’s first do Goku vs Naruto
Now let’s see Goku vs Luffy
Now, Goku vs Luffy and Naruto
The only true competition is a food competition between them (And maybe a few more anime characters)
Let’s first do Goku vs Naruto
Now let’s see Goku vs Luffy
Now, Goku vs Luffy and Naruto
The only true competition is a food competition between them (And maybe a few more anime characters)