It will cost $636 billion to build the parts on Earth, plus $44.4 trillion to get it all off Earth and to Mars. At that launch cost, it's definitely worth investing in asteroid mining and refining technologies first.
To do the calculations, we can make a number of simplifying assumptions:
- Only use currently known technologies (no hyperdrives, tractor beams, force field shields, artificial gravity generators, etc.)
- No need for super-thick hull protection or fancy exotic materials
- It needs to get to "proper space", i.e. escape Earth's gravity well and not be stuck in low orbit
Size, Volume, Mass
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It will cost $636 billion to build the parts on Earth, plus $44.4 trillion to get it all off Earth and to Mars. At that launch cost, it's definitely worth investing in asteroid mining and refining technologies first.
To do the calculations, we can make a number of simplifying assumptions:
- Only use currently known technologies (no hyperdrives, tractor beams, force field shields, artificial gravity generators, etc.)
- No need for super-thick hull protection or fancy exotic materials
- It needs to get to "proper space", i.e. escape Earth's gravity well and not be stuck in low orbit
Size, Volume, Mass
An Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer is 1600 m long. If you look at this picture, you can see that the height and width of the main pyramid section is approximately 220 m x 900 m. Hence the internal volume of the Star Destroyer is approximately a pyramid with base 1/3 * (1/2 * 220 * 900) * 1600 = 1/3 * 99000 * 1600 = 52.8 million m³. We'll ignore the control tower and other details. For comparison, the world's largest building by volume, the Boeing Everett factory, is 13.3 million m³. So it's big, but not so big that we would run out of raw materials.
Our first reference point is the world's largest cruise liner, the Allure of the Seas. Ships are a good analogy because they need to be light and strong to transport lots of stuff fuel-efficiently.
(Image credit Wikipedia: "Allure of the Seas (ship, 2009) 001" by Jorge in Brazil - Flickr: Falmouth, Jamaica. Licensed under CC BY 2.0 via Commons)
The Allure of the Seas is 360 m long, 60.5 m at maximum width (47 m at waterline) and 81.3 m at maxmium overall height. It weighs 100 million kg. If you look at a picture of the ship and consider that cruise liners are fairly boxy, we can approximate its volume as 360 x 55 x 60 = 1.188 million m³. Hence the Imperial Star Destroyer is approximately 44.4 times the volume of the Allure of the Seas. Thus we can estimate its weight as 44.4 * 100 million = 4.44 billion kg.
Our second reference point is the Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carrier of the US Navy.
(Image credit Wikipedia: "USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) on the James River in 2013" by U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Second Class Aidan P. Campbell)
Conveniently, it weighs about the same as the Allure of the Seas and is of a similar size and volume. It has two nuclear reactors and costs about $10.44B. Each ship generates about 3.3 GW of electrity (enough to power continuously nearly 3 time-travelling DeLoreans from Back to the Future); i.e. 146.5 GW overall. For comparison, the whold world produced 23.5 M GWh of electrical energy in 2014, which works out to 2687 GW continously (i.e. enough power to run 18.3 Star Destroyers).
For a sanity check, we can use the International Space Station.
(Image credit Wikipedia: "International Space Station after undocking of STS-132" by NASA/Crew of STS-132)
The ISS weighs 0.45 million kg and I guesstimate an approximate total volume of 2000 m³ (internal pressurized volume is 916 m³). Scaled up to Star Destroyer volume, this would give it a weight of 11.9 billion kg. This tells us that the Star Destroyer based on a ship is actually quite light, which makes sense since it has many large internal cavities to hold spaceships etc.
Ship Value
We have seen that the Imperial Star Destroyer is 44.4 times the $10.44B aircraft carrier; so the value of the base ship is about $464B. This will get you something that looks like a Star Destroyer with the power and lights on, but doesn't do anything yet. We need to add weapons ($12B), engines ($140B) and TIE fighters and AT-ATs ($20B). Total cost: $636B.
Weapons: We are told that the Star Destroyer has 60 turbolaser turrets and 60 ion cannons. The ATHENA laser is the closest thing that exists right now. It will be rated to 60 kW at a cost of $25M for a demonstrator, which is enough to disable a car. The technology is expected to work up to 500 kW, which should be enough to disable planes and trucks. Let's guess that, due to volume production efficiencies, we can also get the final 500 kW version for $25M each. Each turret will need four lasers, for $100M per turret. We don't have an equivalent ion cannon, so we will make do with 120 laser turrets for a total of $12B.
Engines: The most powerful ion thruster prototype, NASA Evolutionary Ion Thruster (NEXT) has a power rating of 7 kW and thrust of 0.25 N. How many NEXTs can we power using the Star Destroyer? Let's say we use 98 GW out of the 146.5 GW available power; i.e. two-thirds of the ship's total power budget. This means we can run 14 million NEXTs with a combined total thrust of 3.5 million Newton. This will accelerate the ship at 0.8 mm/s². This is not much, but enough to get going: from a standing start, the ship would be moving at 2.9 m/s after one hour, and 68.7 m/s after one day. The rated speed of the Star Destroyer is only 270 m/s (972 km/h), which we would reach after nearly 4 days.
If each NEXT weighs 100 kg including support material, their total weight will be 1.4 billion kg - around one third of the total weight of the ship. The cost of the NEXT is unknown, but the principle is very cheap to demonstrate. Let's guess that it costs $10k per thruster, for a total of $140B.
TIE fighters and AT-ATs: TIE fighters also run using ion engines, but we've seen that our current NEXT technology is woefully inadequate for high acceleration. So we will just assume that each one costs the same as a Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, i.e. $150M per piece (yes, it won't work in space but never mind). The Star Destroyer has 72 of them, for a total cost of $10.8B. There is also a similar number of shuttles, heavy troop transports, AT-AT walkers, etc. Let's just round it up to $20B for the lot.
Space Transfer Costs
How much does it cost to get the Imperial Star Destroyer into space? The Falcon Heavy from SpaceX, currently the cheapest and largest commercial rocket able to launch payloads towards Mars (the minimum respectable target for any Star Destroyer), costs $135M to launch 13200 kg towards Mars. Let's say we get a small discount and pay $10000/kg. So getting the Star Destroyer parts into space will cost $44.4 trillion and require 330,000 launches! That is one launch every minute for nearly 8 months - the peak operating rate of a very busy 24-hour airport. If that launch contract was ever awarded, I'd want to be Elon Musk even more than I already do.
Fictional Historial Precedent
In the animated TV series Space Battleship Yamato (Star Blazers), the sunken World War II Japanese battleship Yamato is raised and converted into a spaceship before embarking on a world-saving quest.
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- Would our Imperial Star Destroyer really work? Probably not for long - getting rid of all of that excess heat from the 88 nuclear reactors is a problem that we have not yet solved. The ship would quickly get so hot that it would melt or explode, or both. You could try to channel the excess heat into a Tokamak, but then we are getting into technologies that we don't know (yet) how to build properly. A lot of really big fins could also be used to radiate the excess heat into space, but that's too much work to calculate at this point.
- If the air in the ship is pressurized to sea level equivalent, that 52.8 million m³ of air is going to weigh about 65 million kg. That's an extra 4925 SpaceX Falcon Heavy launches just to fill it up with air.
- Update 2016-01-11: The price of the ship just went up by a few tens of billions due to an updated figure I found for the Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier. Government budget blowouts are a real problem in the Galactic Empire.
Let's approach this a bit differently.
First, let's ignore the scientific feasibility. According to our current understanding of science, several things about the Star Wars universe are impossible, but let's just suspend our disbelief. Second, let's ignore the cost to discover and develop those technologies. They have a lot of ships, so obviously the technology has been around a while.
So, in terms of our planet — Earth, for most of you reading this — imagine taking every bit of wealth from the planet. Every piece of currency out of every bank, from under every mattress, and out of every pocket.
Let's approach this a bit differently.
First, let's ignore the scientific feasibility. According to our current understanding of science, several things about the Star Wars universe are impossible, but let's just suspend our disbelief. Second, let's ignore the cost to discover and develop those technologies. They have a lot of ships, so obviously the technology has been around a while.
So, in terms of our planet — Earth, for most of you reading this — imagine taking every bit of wealth from the planet. Every piece of currency out of every bank, from under every mattress, and out of every pocket. Once you have done all that, you still wouldn't have enough to build even one ship!
OK - fair enough. So how do they do it? Well, first, it's a movie. They can build whatever they want. But also consider that within the context of the story, that galaxy far, far away has hundreds or even thousands of inhabited planets. So the material wealth of the First Order, Republic, Empire — whatever — makes the combined wealth and resources of Earth look like a penny you find on the sidewalk.
So in that context, they have a vast amount of resources available to them — both in terms of cash and minerals — to build these ships. Also, the civilizations depicted in the Star Wars universe are much older than ours (even though it happened a long time ago). So they are more advanced in terms of how these technologies can be implemented. So one can assume they can spend far less than we would have to in order to build these ships.
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Unfortunately, this structure then would be a completely useless lump of metal. OK, maybe not completely... it could provide life support for its inhabitants. But all the advanced technology that characterizes a Star Destroyer: Shields, weapons, advanced propulsion systems, capability to travel faster than light... none of these exist. Worse yet, the ph
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Unfortunately, this structure then would be a completely useless lump of metal. OK, maybe not completely... it could provide life support for its inhabitants. But all the advanced technology that characterizes a Star Destroyer: Shields, weapons, advanced propulsion systems, capability to travel faster than light... none of these exist. Worse yet, the physics behind them doesn't exist either, and for all we know, they may not even be possible. So for now, your beautiful Star Destroyer would be little more than an extremely expensive nonfunctional life-size replica or prop.

Estimating the cost of building an Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer, as depicted in the Star Wars universe, involves a lot of speculation since it's a fictional spacecraft. However, we can make some educated guesses based on various factors.
- Size and Specifications: An Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer is approximately 1,600 meters long and is equipped with heavy turbolasers, ion cannons, and a complement of TIE fighters, along with advanced sensors and shields.
- Material Costs: The materials required to construct such a massive vessel would be astronomical. For reference, modern naval ships can cos
Estimating the cost of building an Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer, as depicted in the Star Wars universe, involves a lot of speculation since it's a fictional spacecraft. However, we can make some educated guesses based on various factors.
- Size and Specifications: An Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer is approximately 1,600 meters long and is equipped with heavy turbolasers, ion cannons, and a complement of TIE fighters, along with advanced sensors and shields.
- Material Costs: The materials required to construct such a massive vessel would be astronomical. For reference, modern naval ships can cost billions of dollars. The USS Gerald R. Ford, a modern aircraft carrier, has a cost of around [math]13 billion. 3. **Technology and Research**: The advanced technology (like hyperdrive systems, energy shields, and weaponry) would add significantly to the cost. Developing and integrating such technologies could easily double or triple the base material costs. 4. **Labor and Infrastructure**: The workforce needed to build and maintain such a ship would be extensive, requiring skilled labor, specialized facilities, and long-term operational costs. 5. **Fictional Economy**: In the Star Wars universe, the Galactic Empire likely has a different economic framework than our own, which complicates real-world comparisons. ### Estimated Cost Given these factors, a rough estimate for the cost of constructing an Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer could range from **[/math]10 billion to over $100 billion** in today's dollars, depending on the assumptions made about materials, technology, labor, and additional operational costs.
Conclusion
While it's impossible to provide a precise figure due to the fictional nature of the Star Destroyer and the differences between Star Wars technology and our current capabilities, this estimate gives a general idea of the immense financial investment required to build such a ship.
The trick to this is that you'd have to build it somewhere like the asteroid belt where you can get the raw materials outside the influence of gravity. So first you have to do another program like ISS except on an industrial scale rather than scientific. So you're looking at a couple trillion dollars or so to get the mining and processing ship as well as the autonomous 3D printing stations that wi
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- Space Rockets and reusability (SpaceX/Blue origin's achievements in terms of thrust power and future price development of kg sent to space)
You start to wonder how these areas will look like in 30 years. For sake of speculation regarding the question:
- SpaceX
When you review what progress has been made in the past decade in terms of:
- 3D Printing (Falcon X motor components are 3D printed metal)
- Automated factories (metal handling and welding is entirely automated)
- A.I. (Capability of making conclusions from vast knowledge banks)
- Robotics (Prostates that replicate the precision of human hands and legs)
- Space Rockets and reusability (SpaceX/Blue origin's achievements in terms of thrust power and future price development of kg sent to space)
You start to wonder how these areas will look like in 30 years. For sake of speculation regarding the question:
- SpaceX Falcon XX heavy rockets sends segments of autonomous mining ships to space, which are then assembled with robotics before embarking to nearest asteroid field
- Asteroid field identified with required minerals for space ships will be colonized with an armada of these mining ships combined with continuous flow of extra components which have been shipped from earth
- Army of humanoids which do not need any water/food/air are used to set up the factory premises on the asteroids. Energy required for production is generated through nuclear or solar energy
- Automated factory lines equipped with large scale 3D printers enable mass scale 24/7 production of the necessary parts
- In 30 years propulsion technology might be replaced with something unheard of removing the need for fuel to be sent from Earth
- Designs of the planned Star destroyer like spaceship has been planned/designed and virtually augmented thousands of times back in Earth HQ which reduces errors and removes the most challenging part of space travel/manufacturing; presence of humans from the equation
Does this sound plausible in 30 years? Maybe, what would we do with such a ship? Send it further into space or design to accommodate humans when ready? Who knows but technological advancements in this field are only starting to emerge.
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Thousands of years, on the inside. Let's look at some of the systems required to make a star destroyer functional and livable:
1) Structural: the Imperial-I Star Destroyer is 1600 meters long, dagger shaped, requires a crew in excess of 36,000 not including a landing force, and as is true with most warships, the power plant takes up a large portion of the internal space. To wit, a monumental reactor. These are constructed by Kuat Drive Yards in an orbital shipyard. We don't know how to build things in orbit, much less things over a kilometer and a half long. And we certainly can't build a react
Thousands of years, on the inside. Let's look at some of the systems required to make a star destroyer functional and livable:
1) Structural: the Imperial-I Star Destroyer is 1600 meters long, dagger shaped, requires a crew in excess of 36,000 not including a landing force, and as is true with most warships, the power plant takes up a large portion of the internal space. To wit, a monumental reactor. These are constructed by Kuat Drive Yards in an orbital shipyard. We don't know how to build things in orbit, much less things over a kilometer and a half long. And we certainly can't build a reactor on orbit. We don't know how to build single structures that are big enough to house 46,000 people on the ground, much less in space. Our crowning architectural achievement is about 400 meters longer than the keel of one of these puppies. And that was an earth-based project.
2) Hyperdrive: ah, yes, the hyperdrive. Derived from Force-based technology from the Rakatan Infinite Empire. No one's exactly sure how it works, as no one's exactly sure who invented it. There are people who understand how to build one and how to fix one, but the operating principle seems to be pretty mysterious. If such a drive is possible, we're still some way away from having it ourselves.
3) Gravity generator: Everyone's walking around in perfect 1G all throughout the ship. This currently flies in the face of everything we know about physics.
4) Weaponry: The Imperial-I is a mid-size warship. It is designed to be effective against similarly sized capital ships (of which, the rebels had less than 5, 3 of which were combatants. Much of the Alliance Navy was significantly smaller, composed of a number of Corellian corvettes and starfighters. We only see two cruisers and one battleship at Sullust in preparation for the attack on DSII in canon, and we're led to believe that this is a massive fleet by rebellion standards) and a wide array of randomly placed smaller cannons that allow the ship to target smaller craft. This is the technology we're closest to producing right now. We have a naval laser weapon nearing initial operational capability, but it's a point defense weapon more than anything.
5) Fighter complement: One I-1 Star Destroyer could carry 72 TIE fighters, composed of different TIE configurations. We don't even know how orbital or deep space dogfighting would work, much less are we capable of it. Much less are we capable of housing a complement of fighters in a larger vehicle.
6) Propulsion: The I-1's subluminal propulsion includes three monstrously huge ion engines and 4 to 6 smaller backups. Currently the biggest engines ever flown in space were the J-2 engines. Which were HUGE, but not nearly as big as the main propulsion plant on the I-1.
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A Star Destroyer, like the ones seen in the Star Wars movies, is an immense, powerful ship. The cost of building one in real life would be astronomical (get it?). Even the richest person in the world, like Elon Musk, could not afford it. Let’s break it down.
First, let's look at the size and complexity of a Star Destroyer. In the movies, these ships are massive. The Imperial-class Star Destroyer, for example, is about 1,600 meters long. That is roughly the length of 16 football fields (gotta let the Americans understand). It houses thousands of crew members, stormtroopers, TIE fighters, weapons
A Star Destroyer, like the ones seen in the Star Wars movies, is an immense, powerful ship. The cost of building one in real life would be astronomical (get it?). Even the richest person in the world, like Elon Musk, could not afford it. Let’s break it down.
First, let's look at the size and complexity of a Star Destroyer. In the movies, these ships are massive. The Imperial-class Star Destroyer, for example, is about 1,600 meters long. That is roughly the length of 16 football fields (gotta let the Americans understand). It houses thousands of crew members, stormtroopers, TIE fighters, weapons, and all sorts of advanced technology.
Building something of this scale in real life would require a staggering amount of resources. Think about the material cost. You would need a vast amount of metal, advanced electronics, weapon systems, and propulsion technology. The ship also needs to support life for its crew, which means facilities for food, water, waste management, and medical care. Just the raw materials and basic infrastructure alone would cost billions, and don’t even get me started on the shields.
Now, consider the technology. Star Destroyers have advanced shields, hyperdrives, and powerful weaponry like turbo lasers. Developing these technologies from scratch, even with today’s advancements, would take massive research and development efforts. We are talking about decades of work and possibly trillions of dollars.
To put it in perspective, let's use the cost of modern military equipment. The US Navy’s Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier, one of the most advanced and expensive warships today, costs about $13 billion. And it is nowhere near the size or complexity of a Star Destroyer. Given this, a rough estimate for building a Star Destroyer could easily reach hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars.
Elon Musk, the CEO of SpaceX and Tesla, is one of the richest people in the world. As of now, his net worth is around $200 billion. Even if he wanted to, he couldn’t buy a Star Destroyer. The cost is simply too high. Musk’s wealth, while immense, is tied up in stocks, investments, and assets. Adding all of that to build a Star Destroyer is impractical and still insufficient.
Moreover, the logistical challenges are immense. Building something as large as a Star Destroyer would require massive facilities, skilled labor, and coordination on an unprecedented scale. Current space infrastructure is not equipped to handle such a project. We would need to build new shipyards, train engineers, and develop new technologies, all of which add to the cost.
Even if we somehow managed to build it, the operational costs would be sky-high. Staffing a Star Destroyer requires thousands of people. You need trained pilots, engineers, soldiers, and support staff. Then, there’s maintenance, fuel, and supplies. Operating a vessel of this size is a constant, expensive burden.
So, in short, the cost of building a Star Destroyer is beyond our current capabilities, both financially and technologically. Even Elon Musk, with all his wealth and ambition, could not afford it. The idea of owning a Star Destroyer is something we’ll probably never have in our current era.
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An Imperial AT-AT Walker will cost approximately $196M to build.
The good news is that the AT-AT is one of the few Star Wars vehicles that can be built using today’s technologies, creating jobs for working families today. It would also be completely useless from a military viewpoint, but that doesn’t matter because it is way cool and impressive.
First we need to collect some reference information:
- According to Wookieepedia, the AT-AT is 22.5 m high. By looking at some scale drawings, you can then deduce that it is about 28.7 m long (including front cannon) and 7.7 m wide.
- A good reference for land
An Imperial AT-AT Walker will cost approximately $196M to build.
The good news is that the AT-AT is one of the few Star Wars vehicles that can be built using today’s technologies, creating jobs for working families today. It would also be completely useless from a military viewpoint, but that doesn’t matter because it is way cool and impressive.
First we need to collect some reference information:
- According to Wookieepedia, the AT-AT is 22.5 m high. By looking at some scale drawings, you can then deduce that it is about 28.7 m long (including front cannon) and 7.7 m wide.
- A good reference for land-based military hardware is the United States M1 Abrams main battle tank (9.77 m long, 2.44 m high, 3.66 m wide, 60 t weight). It has a 1.12 MW gas turbine engine, which can propel it at up to ~70 km/h. The rotating turret of the tank is a rough approximation of the size (but not quite type) of technology that could be used in the leg joints of the AT-AT. The tank cost USD 8.58M to buy in 2012.
- For those of us (like me) who are not accustomed to tanks, the New Routemaster bus used in London is another useful size reference (11.23 m long, 4.38 m high, 2.52 m wide, 12.4 t weight). It has a 138 kW engine. They cost GBP 355k each (USD 513k as of May 2016).
Below you can see each of these vehicles to scale.
For the rest of the calculation, we will assume that the AT-AT should be at least as survivable as the M1 Abrams tank (ignoring obvious weaknesses in the legs and neck of the AT-AT), and should therefore have a similar weight of armor.
By inspection, you can see that the main hull of the AT-AT is about 2 Abrams long, 3 Abrams high and 2 Abrams wide, i.e. 12 Abrams. The head is approximately one more Abrams. The legs are quite thin, although the feet are large - let’s assume 1 more Abrams per leg. This means that our AT-AT is about 17 Abrams in size, which works out to 1020 t of weight and 19.1 MW of power - more than enough, considering that the AT-AT moves much slower than the Abrams. So the AT-AT vehicle itself will cost around $146M to build.
On top of the vehicle cost comes the main weapons. The AT-AT has two lasers sticking out of its head. I estimated the cost of these in a previous post (How much would it realistically cost to build an Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer?) to be $25M each. So that’s another $50M for the two lasers. At full power, we will need 1 MW of power to run them, which should be covered by the power of the gas turbines.
Total cost: $196M. That’s not so much more than the cost of a F-22 Raptor ($150M).
If you want a version that looks good and walks, but doesn’t have military strength or functionality, it should cost around 9 New Routemaster buses (1 head + 6 body + 2 legs), or $4.6M. Its lower power of 1.2 MW is offset by its much lower weight (112 t), but you might want to upgrade the engine just to make sure. You can also save some weight by removing the 62 seats on each bus (keep two for the head section).
Edit 2016–05–23: It seems that many of you have read this article about the cost of purchasing an AT-AT. I find your faith… disturbing.
Star Destroyer – $636,000,000,000
Aircraft carriers provide a really handy reference point when calculating the cost of a giant spaceship. After all, aircraft carriers are already massive floating fortresses, so the basic amount of materials used to build one can be easily scaled up to match the size of a much larger vessel.
And wow is the Star Destroyer a much, much more massive vessel. It would be approximately 44.4 the times of a Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier. Since those aircraft carriers cost around 10.44 billion each, a Star Destroyer would cost an estimated $464 Billion.
And that’s
Star Destroyer – $636,000,000,000
Aircraft carriers provide a really handy reference point when calculating the cost of a giant spaceship. After all, aircraft carriers are already massive floating fortresses, so the basic amount of materials used to build one can be easily scaled up to match the size of a much larger vessel.
And wow is the Star Destroyer a much, much more massive vessel. It would be approximately 44.4 the times of a Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier. Since those aircraft carriers cost around 10.44 billion each, a Star Destroyer would cost an estimated $464 Billion.
And that’s the cost for Star Destroyers that can’t really do anything: no turbolasers, no engines, not even any electricity. It’s those extra costs that bump the total cost up to $636 billion.
Only 3,880,000,000 GCr’s!
One thing those estimate don’t account for is the cost of actually getting the Star Destroyer into space. Warning it isn’t cheap!
Where is Elon Musk when we need him and his rockets!!?
But I digress, using current technology for space travel, moving the Star Destroyer parts off-world would cost about $44.4 trillion. So yeah, start saving those and taking out some loans. Maybe set up some Ponzi scheme‘s and rip off a bunch of billionaires LOL!
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First, let's consider the size and complexity of a Star Destroyer. These bad boys are about 1,600 meters long and are armed with powerful weapons, shields, and a vast array of other advanced systems. Given our current technological capabilities, we're nowhere near being able to build something like that. To give you an idea, the largest naval vessels we have today are aircraft carriers, which are around 330 meters long, and they're already incredibly complex and expensive to build.
Now, let's say some genius invents a bunch of new technologies that make Star Destroyers possible. We'd still need
First, let's consider the size and complexity of a Star Destroyer. These bad boys are about 1,600 meters long and are armed with powerful weapons, shields, and a vast array of other advanced systems. Given our current technological capabilities, we're nowhere near being able to build something like that. To give you an idea, the largest naval vessels we have today are aircraft carriers, which are around 330 meters long, and they're already incredibly complex and expensive to build.
Now, let's say some genius invents a bunch of new technologies that make Star Destroyers possible. We'd still need to develop the infrastructure and expertise to build them. This would likely take many years, if not decades, to achieve. And that's just for one Star Destroyer! Building a whole fleet would take even longer, with each ship taking years to construct. As for the cost, well, it would be astronomical (pun intended). The most advanced aircraft carriers today cost around $13 billion each, and a Star Destroyer would likely cost many times more than that. Let's say we want to build a modest fleet of 10 Star Destroyers; the cost could easily run into the trillions of dollars.
Funding such an endeavor would require an unprecedented level of cooperation and investment from nations around the world. It's hard to imagine any single country being able to foot the bill on its own. One possibility might be a global crowdfunding campaign, although it's unclear how successful that would be given the staggering amount of money needed. More likely, a consortium of wealthy nations would need to pool their resources and collaborate on the project. Another potential way to fund the fleet would be through public-private partnerships. In this scenario, governments might partner with private space companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin, who could contribute their expertise and resources to the project. However, even with private sector involvement, the sheer cost of building a fleet of Star Destroyers would still be a major hurdle.
In summary, building a fleet of Star Destroyers like those from Star Wars would be an incredibly complex and expensive undertaking that would likely take many decades, if not longer, to complete. The cost would be in the trillions of dollars, and funding would probably require a mix of international cooperation, public-private partnerships, and some seriously creative financing. While it's a fun idea to think about, it's safe to say we won't be seeing real-life Star Destroyers anytime soon!
We do not know the currency units which the Galactic Republic or the Empire use, or how they relate to the GPP (Gross Planetary Product), GGP (Gross Galactic Product), or even the average daily wage of, for example, a government bureaucrat on Coruscant.
But considering the number of them, I would estimate the relative cost to be about that of a World War II battleship aircraft carrier. That is, the government could afford to build quite a few of them, but the average citizen or even company could not.
probably not, due to lack of tech necessary, and the fact that if one country started to, all the others would start building one, starting the next arms race.
But if you want to build one, but as a display, go ahead, and of course
(mw hehehehehe, lego will rule the world)
probably not, due to lack of tech necessary, and the fact that if one country started to, all the others would start building one, starting the next arms race.
But if you want to build one, but as a display, go ahead, and of course
(mw hehehehehe, lego will rule the world)
I always give lengthy answers, so on this occasion I'm gonna let pictures speak louder than words. Here are some images of what an Imperial Star Destroyer would look like compared to real world structures. The first one is a Star Destroyer standing upright against a city skyline.
These just put it in perspective of how enormous an Imperial Star Destroyer is compared to the great cities of the world.
And heres what a Super Star Destroyer, Mon Calamari and Trade Federation vessels look like in a big city.
I always give lengthy answers, so on this occasion I'm gonna let pictures speak louder than words. Here are some images of what an Imperial Star Destroyer would look like compared to real world structures. The first one is a Star Destroyer standing upright against a city skyline.
These just put it in perspective of how enormous an Imperial Star Destroyer is compared to the great cities of the world.
And heres what a Super Star Destroyer, Mon Calamari and Trade Federation vessels look like in a big city.
We cannot realistically build one because Star Destroyers are a product of fiction.
The technologies involved in a running Star Destroyer like artificial gravity, life support for thousands of crew, faster-than-light travel, shields, energy weapons, and more are all beyond the realm of our technological capabilities and quite possibly the reality of physics.
At this point, any cost estimate would b
We cannot realistically build one because Star Destroyers are a product of fiction.
The technologies involved in a running Star Destroyer like artificial gravity, life support for thousands of crew, faster-than-light travel, shields, energy weapons, and more are all beyond the realm of our technological capabilities and quite possibly the reality of physics.
At this point, any cost estimate would be purely conjecture so quadrillions would probably be accurate if accounting for all the future rese...
If you wish to witness the firepower of a (not quite) fully armed and operational Death Star DS-1 battle station (the one from Episode 4), you will need to collect the following items:
- 21 quintillion US dollars (280,000 years of current world economic output). Because we have been told that the Death Star cost 1 trillion galactic credits, we also now know that the conversion rate of US dollars to galactic credits is 21 million to 1.
- Material equivalent to 2.01 billion Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carriers, which is enough to cover the areas of Switzerland, Pennsylvania, Denmark or half of Scotl
If you wish to witness the firepower of a (not quite) fully armed and operational Death Star DS-1 battle station (the one from Episode 4), you will need to collect the following items:
- 21 quintillion US dollars (280,000 years of current world economic output). Because we have been told that the Death Star cost 1 trillion galactic credits, we also now know that the conversion rate of US dollars to galactic credits is 21 million to 1.
- Material equivalent to 2.01 billion Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carriers, which is enough to cover the areas of Switzerland, Pennsylvania, Denmark or half of Scotland to a depth of 20 km.
- $200 billion per year to pay salaries, plus spare parts.
It would have the following specifications:
- Total mass 201 megatons.
- 357 internal levels, average level height 168 m (large cavities in the middle, lower ceilings towards the surface).
- Base power output to keep the lights on: 1.21 quintillion Watt, which happens to be equal to 1 billion DeLorean time machines from Back to the Future or 524,000 times the world’s average electricity production.
- Peak main weapon firing power 1500x our Sun over 8 seconds.
- Gravity at the surfcae = 3.7E-6 m/s2, i.e. not very much.
- Science-fiction technologies (tractor beams, hypermatter reactors) not included. But we do get 15000 laser turrets costing $1.5 trillion.
All of the costs assume that you build it in space for the same cost as on Earth. It would be ridiculous to launch that amount of stuff out of Earth’s gravity well.
Detailed calculations below.
Size, Weight
The first Death Star was a 120 km sphere, with a surface area of 45239 km2. This are is similar to the areas of Switzerland (41285), Pennsylvania (43054), Denmark (43094), and a bit more than half of Scotland (80077). Its volume is 904772 km3. If we re-shape that to a prism with a base equivalent to its surface area prism, it would come to a depth of 20 km. So imagine covering those countries/states to that depth to get an idea of how much stuff is needed.
To fill the volume, we will assume that the structure of a Death Star is similar to a Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier. The aircraft carrier is 100,000 tons (0.1 megatons), and can be approximated by a rectangular prism of dimensions 300 x 50 x 30 m = 0.00045 km3. Thus 2.01 billion aircraft carriers will be required to fill the volume, with a total weight of 201 megatons.
Power
Each aircraft carrier has nuclear reactors generating 600 MW. The Death Star in base operation mode would have a total power of 1.21E18 W = 1 billion back to the future DeLoreans. World electricity generation is 2.3TW, so we are running at 524000 times the world’s electrical power generation capacity.
The Earth has a lot of iron, which has a specific heat of around 500 J/kg K. To melt rock you need to heat it by around 1500 K. The mass of the Earth is around 6E24 kg. So you will need to inject around 4.5E30 J of energy. According to my viewing of the video of the destruction of Alderaan, it takes 8 seconds for the Death Star’s weapon to do its thing. Therefore the peak power output required is 5.6E29 W, which is nearly 1500 times the power output of our Sun (3.8E26 W).
Cost
Each carrier costs $10.44B, so the total cost is $2.1E19 = 21 quintillion dollars (world economic output for 280,000 years). On top of that comes the cost for 15,000 turbolasers. In my previous “research” on how much it would cost to build an Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer, a laser turret cost $100M each. So we have a laser bill of $1.5 trillion, which is insignificant compared to the overall cost.
The Death Star also has 768 tractor beams, plus many hypermatter reactors. I have no idea how much these cost.
We are told that the Death Star had 2 million personnel. The cost to employ a U.S. Soldier is around $100,000 per year. On top of that comes spare parts etc.
No.
Could the US build a hull that size? Probably. But:
It’s not that big.
-It wouldn’t be made of the same materials. Star Destroyers aren’t made of real metals, but rather, fantastic materials that have impossible properties and probably cannot actually exist.
-Even if we did, it wouldn’t work. There is no known anti-gravity technology, and there are some pretty good reasons to assume such a thing d
No.
Could the US build a hull that size? Probably. But:
It’s not that big.
-It wouldn’t be made of the same materials. Star Destroyers aren’t made of real metals, but rather, fantastic materials that have impossible properties and probably cannot actually exist.
-Even if we did, it wouldn’t work. There is no known anti-gravity technology, and there are some pretty good reasons to assume such a thing doesn’t exist, or if it did, wouldn’t work like it’s shown in the films. There’s that whole “equal and opposite reaction” problem, for one, and then you have the issue of whatever mass is above the Star Destroyer- gravity doesn’t just stop with the ship, you know.
Cue the hurricane.
And then you have the issue of just how utterly impractical the design is- Star Wars is not science fiction, it’s space fantasy, and the ship were never designed to actually fun...
Resurgent Class Battle Cruiser:
Length: 2,915.81 meters
Width: 1483.5 meters
Armament:
1,500+ kyber crystal powered turbolasers, point-defense laser cannons and ion cannons
Unconfirmed number of Point-defense quad concussion missile emplacements
Unconfirmed number of Tractor beam projectors
Complement:
2 First Order TIE wings
100 troop transports
A prefabricated base
A light cruiser
Imperial II class Star Destroyer:
Length: 1600 meters
Width: 600 meters
Armament:
60 Turbolaser batteries
60 Heavy ion cannon emplacements
10 Tractor beam projectors
Complement:
72 total fighters, usually 48 TIE fighters, 12 bombers,
Resurgent Class Battle Cruiser:
Length: 2,915.81 meters
Width: 1483.5 meters
Armament:
1,500+ kyber crystal powered turbolasers, point-defense laser cannons and ion cannons
Unconfirmed number of Point-defense quad concussion missile emplacements
Unconfirmed number of Tractor beam projectors
Complement:
2 First Order TIE wings
100 troop transports
A prefabricated base
A light cruiser
Imperial II class Star Destroyer:
Length: 1600 meters
Width: 600 meters
Armament:
60 Turbolaser batteries
60 Heavy ion cannon emplacements
10 Tractor beam projectors
Complement:
72 total fighters, usually 48 TIE fighters, 12 bombers, and 12 interceptors
20 AT-ATs
20 AT-STs
2 Gozanti class cruisers
8 Lambda class shuttles
Venator class Star Destroyer/Carrier:
Length: 1137 meters
Width: 548 meters
Armament:
8 Turbolaser batteries
2 Medium dual Turbolaser cannons
52 Point-defense laser cannons
4 Heavy Proton torpedo tubes
6 Tractor beam projectors
Complement:
192 Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing or V-19 Torrent starfighters
36 ARC-170 starfighters
192 Eta-2 Actis-class interceptors
20–40 LAAT/i gunships
24 Heavy military walkers
Various shuttles/support craft
1 Prefabricated garrison base
In conclusion, while the Resurgent class is technically less than double the length of an ISD and a bit more than double a Venator, it's pretty clear here that on top of a technical advantage in the weapons and fighters it carries, it holds far more firepower than even a fleet of any of the other two. We jump from 60 turbos and 60 ions to 1500+. That is absolutely insane, the Resurgent is more akin to a super star destroyer than a standard one.
For us to build a Death Star would be impossible, regardless how many dollars you threw at it.
Our technology simply isn't advanced enough to duplicate many of the Death Star's internal systems and we have no precedence to estimate how much, say, a single hypermatter generator or tractor beam unit would cost in our reality, let alone what it would cost to create a beam cannon capable of turning a planet into rubble.
At best, you could ship a bunch of titanium and steel into space and build it into a shape that looks somewhat like the Death Star, add some rooms in there and pressurize it like a t
For us to build a Death Star would be impossible, regardless how many dollars you threw at it.
Our technology simply isn't advanced enough to duplicate many of the Death Star's internal systems and we have no precedence to estimate how much, say, a single hypermatter generator or tractor beam unit would cost in our reality, let alone what it would cost to create a beam cannon capable of turning a planet into rubble.
At best, you could ship a bunch of titanium and steel into space and build it into a shape that looks somewhat like the Death Star, add some rooms in there and pressurize it like a traditional space station. In essence, just create a bunch of space stations and weld them together in giant ball.
Given that the International Space Station cost us somewhere around 150 billion USD, it's likely just building enough space stations to form the volume of the Death Star (being a giant sphere around 120km in diameter) would be something like a trillion times that.
So maybe somewhere in the vicinity of a few septillion dollars, world ending laser cannon not included.
Lets say we build the Death Star out of real world materials. Let's say steel and give the Dearth Star the same density of steel per size as a modern warship. Do the math and it turns out you need around 1,000,000,000,000,000 pounds of steel. Alright, now how much does that steel cost? Around $850,000,000,000,000,000. Fun fact, the world’s collective GDP was an estimated $107,500,000,000 in 2014. Also with today's rate of steel production, it would take over 800,000 years to produce this much steel. And none of this takes into account hyperdives or lifesupprt or defense systems or anything els
Lets say we build the Death Star out of real world materials. Let's say steel and give the Dearth Star the same density of steel per size as a modern warship. Do the math and it turns out you need around 1,000,000,000,000,000 pounds of steel. Alright, now how much does that steel cost? Around $850,000,000,000,000,000. Fun fact, the world’s collective GDP was an estimated $107,500,000,000 in 2014. Also with today's rate of steel production, it would take over 800,000 years to produce this much steel. And none of this takes into account hyperdives or lifesupprt or defense systems or anything else that you would need for a fully operational batter station. We have no way of knowing everything that was inside the Death Star so we are left to speculation. So at the very LEAST, it would cost $850,000,000,000,000,000. (In the Star War universe it costed 1,000,000,000,000 credits).
Well, the nearest example we currently have is the US Marines’ LS3 - The military robot “mule”. So we have to get from this:
To this:
The original cost estimate for the LS3 project was $30M, while the actual spent $$ (before the project was suspended) amounted to $42M.
The LS3 is about the size of a horse - 1.5 meters height, 2.2 meter long. So we can assume that each dimension of the Walker is ~12 times as big (based on the data from Quora User’s answer), for a total size factor of 12*12*12=1728.
A simple multiplication (1728*$30M) would lead us to the conclusion that the construction of a Walker
Well, the nearest example we currently have is the US Marines’ LS3 - The military robot “mule”. So we have to get from this:
To this:
The original cost estimate for the LS3 project was $30M, while the actual spent $$ (before the project was suspended) amounted to $42M.
The LS3 is about the size of a horse - 1.5 meters height, 2.2 meter long. So we can assume that each dimension of the Walker is ~12 times as big (based on the data from Quora User’s answer), for a total size factor of 12*12*12=1728.
A simple multiplication (1728*$30M) would lead us to the conclusion that the construction of a Walker size “mule” would cost around $51.84B(!). More than 50 billion dollars.
This is actually quite a good estimate, in my opinion, give or take 50%. At least two major factors should be taken into consideration:
A. building a much larger version of an existing model doesn’t necessarily imply that the costs are cubic-proportionate to the original cost. For example, the control mechanisms are more likely to grow slower - the original mule had 50 sensors, while the walker would probably be OK with just 3000–5000 sensors (instead of 86400). On the other hand, building large mechanical devices tends to become more expensive - for example, there are thousands of factories across the world which can manufacture a leg piston for a Mule, but only very few which can manufacture a leg piston for a Walker.
B. The Walker is an armored vehicle, which should be much more expensive. The cost isn’t just for the armor plates - it’s also for the additional costs from the need to handle much heavier loads, which would require higher quality and larger cross sections across the entire vehicle. My estimate is that the armoring would at ~50% to the cost.
So my guess would be in the range of $40B–$80B.
There are two major arguments why Eng’s $200M seems very off to me:
- This is not a regular internal combustion vehicle. This is a robot. There is a reason why the Mule cost more than 10,000 times as much as a small car. The complexity level is several orders of magnitude higher. While differentials and tires handle most of the car’s requirements for contact with the ground, a robot must know the position of each of its parts in relation to the others.
- There is a huge learning curve which is ignored in these estimates. We manufactured millions of buses and tens of thousands of tanks to date; We never even really manufactured a single working mule. The more you produce of something, the cheaper and faster it becomes to produce it. A century of experience in manufacturing cars mustn’t be taken lightly.
So, if Bill Gates would care to drop all of his silly experiments with condoms and focus on something which is truly meaningful for humanity, we might get to actually see an AT-AT Walker someday.
Depends on the scenario beyond ownership.
If it just appears in orbit and I have full ownership and control of it, then I'd invite scientists, engineers and pilots up onto the ship. Offload some of the shuttles, fighters and bombers and allow them to be flown down to Earth for additional research. The wealth of technology and understanding we'd get from what's onboard a Star Destroyer is unbelievable. We'd have a renaissance in terms of space based technology, material science, high energy physics… hell our understanding of physics would be turned on its head.
If however I'm dumped in the Star W
Depends on the scenario beyond ownership.
If it just appears in orbit and I have full ownership and control of it, then I'd invite scientists, engineers and pilots up onto the ship. Offload some of the shuttles, fighters and bombers and allow them to be flown down to Earth for additional research. The wealth of technology and understanding we'd get from what's onboard a Star Destroyer is unbelievable. We'd have a renaissance in terms of space based technology, material science, high energy physics… hell our understanding of physics would be turned on its head.
If however I'm dumped in the Star Wars universe with the ownership of a ISD, then I would sell it to a shipyard or the government and live off of the profits. Why? Because in the EU there is 1 privately owned Star Destroyer in the galaxy, the Errant Venture, and that is revealed to be a massive sink in resources. In fact it causes headaches for Booster Terrak, the owner/Captain, throughout the 20 years he owns the ship. It presents a massive target for pirates, and for the Republic/Separatists/Empire/Rebellion or any other major faction… you can't just have a ship that is capable of suppressing an entire star system and not attract attention. Selling it however… the lore states that a Star Destroyer costs as much as a star system can provide to build, so we're talking billions of credits… enough to live a lifetime comfortably somewhere out of the way and enjoy myself
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Image Source: The Cost of Building a Real-World AT-AT
An aircraft carrier has an annual cost of $400 million. Given that a Star Destroyer has a crew of 37,000 which is 6 times that of an aircraft carrier, it would be at least 6 times as expensive, so 2.4 billion dollars a year. But while an aircraft carrier has fighters, a star destroyer has fighters AND a lot of other things, multiple turbo lasers, tractor beams, shields… all that adds to the cost. Plus its a lot bigger, not just 6 times bigger but around 40 times bigger, it's 5x longer but mainly because its a lot wider and higher.
I would guess you're looking at 10 billion dollars annual cost.
An aircraft carrier has an annual cost of $400 million. Given that a Star Destroyer has a crew of 37,000 which is 6 times that of an aircraft carrier, it would be at least 6 times as expensive, so 2.4 billion dollars a year. But while an aircraft carrier has fighters, a star destroyer has fighters AND a lot of other things, multiple turbo lasers, tractor beams, shields… all that adds to the cost. Plus its a lot bigger, not just 6 times bigger but around 40 times bigger, it's 5x longer but mainly because its a lot wider and higher.
I would guess you're looking at 10 billion dollars annual cost. That's after the building cost of roughly $650 billion dollars that someone on Reddit calculated.
Yes it would be possible to build a Star Destroyer with today’s technology. With the notable exception of the artificial gravity generator. Would it function like the ones in the movies? Probably not.
How much would it actually cost ? well considering that it cost an average of $1.6 billion per flight, or nearly $30,000 per pound of payload.. A Imperial II Star Destroyer weighs 4,894,262.2 tons so you can probably do the math but it’s a lot of money.
The estimated cost would be around $146,827,866,000 give or take. And that’s just getting the materials into space . You also have to pay the peopl
Yes it would be possible to build a Star Destroyer with today’s technology. With the notable exception of the artificial gravity generator. Would it function like the ones in the movies? Probably not.
How much would it actually cost ? well considering that it cost an average of $1.6 billion per flight, or nearly $30,000 per pound of payload.. A Imperial II Star Destroyer weighs 4,894,262.2 tons so you can probably do the math but it’s a lot of money.
The estimated cost would be around $146,827,866,000 give or take. And that’s just getting the materials into space . You also have to pay the people who are welding the ship together in space and their travel into and back from space as well as their living requirements.
Probably about 1/3 the current cost of a Ford-class aircraft carrier.
I'm told that NASA spent almost $900M on the Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft, which at this minute are on their way to star AC +79 3888 and will arrive in about 40,000 Earth-years. For reference, 40,000 years ago marked the extinction of homo neanderthalensis.
Probably about 1/3 the current cost of a Ford-class aircraft carrier.
I'm told that NASA spent almost $900M on the Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft, which at this minute are on their way to star AC +79 3888 and will arrive in about 40,000 Earth-years. For reference, 40,000 years ago marked the extinction of homo neanderthalensis.
Technology? Before we can talk about technology, we need to talk about science.
The basic capabilities of a Star Destroyer: directed energy weapons, (mostly) inertialess propulsion, artificial gravity, not to mention faster-than-light capability... the science behind these things doesn't exist at present. Worse yet, the science that does exist at present actually says that some of these things are quite likely impossible (as in, contradicting proven, established scientific principles on a fundamental level.) Now of course it may turn out that the science we know is flawed and needs serious revi
Technology? Before we can talk about technology, we need to talk about science.
The basic capabilities of a Star Destroyer: directed energy weapons, (mostly) inertialess propulsion, artificial gravity, not to mention faster-than-light capability... the science behind these things doesn't exist at present. Worse yet, the science that does exist at present actually says that some of these things are quite likely impossible (as in, contradicting proven, established scientific principles on a fundamental level.) Now of course it may turn out that the science we know is flawed and needs serious revision, but until that revision actually happens, we just cannot talk about technology.
With current technology, we can’t yet.
There are many things we would need that we just don’t know how to make or mass product yet. Some of these include:
- Reliable cold fusion reactor for compact “low energy” needs.
- Hyperdrive.
- Some kind of high energy source to the power the hyperdrive.
- A way to dampen or block inertia.
- Artificial gravity without using centrifugal force through rotation.
- Navigational force field to prevent collisions with dust and space debris at extremely high speeds.
- Strong and lighter structural materials. Today there is a maximum size we can build ocean-going ships due too the st
With current technology, we can’t yet.
There are many things we would need that we just don’t know how to make or mass product yet. Some of these include:
- Reliable cold fusion reactor for compact “low energy” needs.
- Hyperdrive.
- Some kind of high energy source to the power the hyperdrive.
- A way to dampen or block inertia.
- Artificial gravity without using centrifugal force through rotation.
- Navigational force field to prevent collisions with dust and space debris at extremely high speeds.
- Strong and lighter structural materials. Today there is a maximum size we can build ocean-going ships due too the strength of our steel.
- Sensors to detect objects while the ship is traveling extremely fast.
- Ways to defeat relatively while traveling at some substantial percentage of light speed but below the speed of light (assuming this is no problem while in hyperspace over the speed of light)
And there are many others things we would need as well. So many in fact that space travel may never be conducted the same way ocean travel is conducted today. Space travel is commonly portrayed like ocean travel in science fiction but it’s mainly a fictional trope. Real interstellar space flight will likely develop very differently and look nothing like what we see in Star Wars.
My guess is that it could be less than 100-150 years.
Am I being unreasonably optimistic? Probably. But consider these ideas in counterpoint to other worthy comments here:
We have directed energy weapons today in the lab. Can’t say they’ll ever make it to the battlefield, but it could also be less than 10 years from now.
Radium was discovered in 1898, or 47 years before that big-ass boom over Hiroshima.
Photon Torpedo / H-Bomb. Tomato/Tomahto. Done.
Neil Armstrong said “One Small Step…” 65 years, seven Months and 16 days after the first powered flight at Kittyhawk. Think about that for three heartb
My guess is that it could be less than 100-150 years.
Am I being unreasonably optimistic? Probably. But consider these ideas in counterpoint to other worthy comments here:
We have directed energy weapons today in the lab. Can’t say they’ll ever make it to the battlefield, but it could also be less than 10 years from now.
Radium was discovered in 1898, or 47 years before that big-ass boom over Hiroshima.
Photon Torpedo / H-Bomb. Tomato/Tomahto. Done.
Neil Armstrong said “One Small Step…” 65 years, seven Months and 16 days after the first powered flight at Kittyhawk. Think about that for three heartbeats.
The Higgs Boson (Gravity) was predicted in 1964 and “discovered” in 2013 after 49 years and a LOT of money. I don’t know when Anakin, Luke and Rae Skywalker’s anti-gravity speeders will be backyard-redneck tech, if ever. I do have a lot of hope for that. Also artificial gravity in space. If the latter doesn’t come along, you can always do constant acceleration or rotating sections as seen in about half of all space operas, like Avatar, The Martian, 2001, 2010, and Interstellar. Anti-grav Skywalker Speeders(tm), may require some kind of tech substitution, but something better than hovercraft is bound to show up.
We know that there are asteroids rich in Iron, Nickel, Carbon, Water etc flying through space, just waiting to be tapped . With space-worthy reactors, making steel, stainless steel and even more exotic alloys in microgravity is a cinch. Liquid Oxygen and Liquid Hydrogen too.
Speaking of micro-gravity, that could be a key to large-scale production of Graphene. Large scale as in cheap and common as polyester, nylon and tyvek. Elon Musk is taking giant leaps towards making micro-gravity processes affordable. He will unquestionably win a Nobel prizes or a record setting three at his current trajectory, including physics, peace and economics.
If a space elevator is ever to be practical, large scale graphene production will be an important component.
Space transportable fusion reactors could be less than 20 years in the future. I’m not talking about the 100-500-Watt plutonium hotboxes we use on Voyager and Cassini type probes, but real many-megawatt-hour reactors the size of a Prius; suitable for iron/steel/stainless-steel smelters in space and Electromagnetic Propulsion. If you don’t know about the Bruissard Polywell reactor, you really should, even if you don’t decide to believe it can work. These are in the labs now and about as close to break-even as the NIF Tokamak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak
FTL Drives vex me. No idea how, much less when. However do really want.
It's easy! Go to a Local store nearby and Buy a Lego set of the “Stardestroyer” and you can destroy the Rebellion today! May the force be with you!
It's easy! Go to a Local store nearby and Buy a Lego set of the “Stardestroyer” and you can destroy the Rebellion today! May the force be with you!
That depends largely on the size, manpower available, availability of components or ability to fabricate them on site, ect.
Fair warning this is gonna be another long one, where I go into some of the in universe logistical issues at play, and why you can’t give a firm end all answer.
During the height of the empire’s control, standard Star Destroyers were constructed at a wide number of designated shipyards usually fairly quickly, not the least of which wereThe Kuat drive Yards main facilities in the titular Kuat System, The Bilbringi shipyards in orbit around the titular planet, another smaller
That depends largely on the size, manpower available, availability of components or ability to fabricate them on site, ect.
Fair warning this is gonna be another long one, where I go into some of the in universe logistical issues at play, and why you can’t give a firm end all answer.
During the height of the empire’s control, standard Star Destroyers were constructed at a wide number of designated shipyards usually fairly quickly, not the least of which wereThe Kuat drive Yards main facilities in the titular Kuat System, The Bilbringi shipyards in orbit around the titular planet, another smaller shipyard in the Commoneor system, the shipyards of fondor, the Yevethan shipyards, of the Koornacht cluster, the Fondorr shipyards (which in legends, produced all but one of the Empire’s Super Star Destroyers) and more.
They also had virtual total contrrol of mining, fabrication, ect to produce components, as well as an insanely large recruiting pool.
I know at one point one of the West End games source books implied the empire could at it’s height produce a Star Destroyer every 5–6 days at the Kuat drive yards orbittal shipyard off of just one docking berth. By the way, it had 90 at it’s height.
Once the rebellion started really taking off though, supply disruption was constant, and only getting worse, as were maintenance requirements. Obviously if you’re using the docks for repairs you can’t use them for construction of new ships. By the time of Gilaead Pellaeon acting as de-facto leader of the imperial remnant, the imperial forces had pretty much lost the capacity to produce new Star Destroyers as well as TIE fighters, many smaller system patrol craft, ect. In fact, under Pellaleon, they were either buying commercial craft and converting them to warships where still possible or seizing vessels from pirates, smugglers, ect.
So at it’s height? One every 5–6 days in one dock in Kuat drive yards. At it’s lowest ebb? None whatsoever *could* be produced.
An Imperial-class Star Destroyer is 1,600 meters long, 900 meters wide, and approximately 40,000,000 tons.
An Imperial-class Star Destroyer is 1,600 meters long, 900 meters wide, and approximately 40,000,000 tons.
Literaly incalcuable.
I’ve seen other answers to questions like “How much would (blank blank in science fiction) cost,” and none of them are serious, simply because there are too many unkowns.
When you estimate how much something costs, you look at what materials it is made of, what prior projects like that in the past cost, how much labor it might take, and then you add in some sort of fudge factor
Literaly incalcuable.
I’ve seen other answers to questions like “How much would (blank blank in science fiction) cost,” and none of them are serious, simply because there are too many unkowns.
When you estimate how much something costs, you look at what materials it is made of, what prior projects like that in the past cost, how much labor it might take, and then you add in some sort of fudge factor based on other difficulties that might arise.
So if you’re going to estimate how much a ship costs, look at how much steel and other materials it takes, what sorts of parts you would need to buy, etc…
There’s the problem.
What is a Star Destroyer made of?
(Googles)
Hmm, a fictional super hard metal called Doonium, which is mined from asteroids in systems like Dor and Ataken…
So, how much does a unit of Doonium cost on Earth? Anyone know? Go ahead, speak up, don’t be shy, We’ll wait.
Hmm, there might be a problem here.
If there is no way to estimate what a completely fictional metal might cost, how do we estimate the cost of 4.4 billion Kg of it. Any number anyone came up with would be purely fictional, because it’s a purely fictional material to begin with.
How many hours would it take to make one? At what labor cost? What oth...
The Imperious-class Star Destroyer. It’s, like, a hundred years more recent, has more weapons, interdiction capabilities, more starfighters, and is much larger (and greater size means greater reactor power, and thus more powerful weapons, shields, and engines).
The Imperious-class Star Destroyer. It’s, like, a hundred years more recent, has more weapons, interdiction capabilities, more starfighters, and is much larger (and greater size means greater reactor power, and thus more powerful weapons, shields, and engines).
Perhaps, although it is so massive that it would require great leaps in engineering and materials (possibly employing incredibly advanced and thus expensive nanoalloys and such). Consider that the largest vessels constructed on Earth today are ULCCs (ultra large crude carriers) and aircraft carriers. The USS Gerald R. Ford is 337 metres long. An ULCC is about 415 metres long. An Imperial I-class Star Destroyer (not even the largest class) is a whopping 1.6 km long.
The most immediate problem, though, would be the necessity of a shipyard massive enough for a construction of this size… in space,
Perhaps, although it is so massive that it would require great leaps in engineering and materials (possibly employing incredibly advanced and thus expensive nanoalloys and such). Consider that the largest vessels constructed on Earth today are ULCCs (ultra large crude carriers) and aircraft carriers. The USS Gerald R. Ford is 337 metres long. An ULCC is about 415 metres long. An Imperial I-class Star Destroyer (not even the largest class) is a whopping 1.6 km long.
The most immediate problem, though, would be the necessity of a shipyard massive enough for a construction of this size… in space, as constructing a Star Destroyer on the surface of a planet would make the process and eventual launch even more challenging.
We have to, of course, ignore the fact that we don’t have light speed travel, or laser cannons, or any of that weaponry, and instead assume that those technologies are readily available, and the question is “How much, in 2020 dollars, would it cost to build a Star Destroyer”
There’s a pretty thorough answer to this here:
How Much Would It Realistically Cost To Build An Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer?
The answer is that the hulk would cost on the order of $460 Billion dollars, but that’s only a tiny fraction of the total cost, since it doesn’t factor in propulsion or weaponry.
Fund? Well lets leave that one but if theres a financial reason, funding will happen.
Next youd have to build it it orbit with all the materials launch from earths surface.
So at 5000 ft long its 5 timea bigger than a super carrier in all direction so 5^3 is 125 times the material. A super carrier weighs about 100,000 tons so lets call a Star Deatroyer 12.5 million tons. Spacex starship is “designed” to carry a 100 ton pauload into space. So thats 125,000 launches just for the material. Lets add another 25000 for construction gear and people to do it. Given Musks crazy claims for starship launch
Fund? Well lets leave that one but if theres a financial reason, funding will happen.
Next youd have to build it it orbit with all the materials launch from earths surface.
So at 5000 ft long its 5 timea bigger than a super carrier in all direction so 5^3 is 125 times the material. A super carrier weighs about 100,000 tons so lets call a Star Deatroyer 12.5 million tons. Spacex starship is “designed” to carry a 100 ton pauload into space. So thats 125,000 launches just for the material. Lets add another 25000 for construction gear and people to do it. Given Musks crazy claims for starship launch costs we will go with Falcon 9 cost to low earth orbit of $2700000 per ton. Or $270,000,000 per 100 ton payload. . Giving a cost just to get material to LEO of $41,500,000,000,000. Thats JUST launch costs.
To high earth orbit or geosyncrhonous lets double that as low earth orbit wont work unless orbital speed can be achieved whilst construction ia underway. We are already at 80 trillion dollars and thats being conservative. Now tag on development costs, material, construction time, personnel and so on amd this would easily double as immense orbital test pieces would have to be made and launched.
So VERY conseratively i am going to say 150 trillion dollars for essentially, a shell in space.
The Imperial II has a peak reactor output of around 9,28 × 10^24 watts (a more than 20% increase over the Imperial I’s reactor output). It also replaced the 8 dual 175-teraton heavy turbolasers which made up the Imperial I’s main battery with 8 40-teraton octuple barbette heavy turbolasers, giving the Imperial-II marginally less firepower (combined 2.5 petaton main battery on ISD II vs 2.8 petaton main battery on ISD I), but greater effectiveness against smaller ships. It also removed point-defense laser cannons in favor of more turbolasers, sacrificing effectiveness against starfighters for i
The Imperial II has a peak reactor output of around 9,28 × 10^24 watts (a more than 20% increase over the Imperial I’s reactor output). It also replaced the 8 dual 175-teraton heavy turbolasers which made up the Imperial I’s main battery with 8 40-teraton octuple barbette heavy turbolasers, giving the Imperial-II marginally less firepower (combined 2.5 petaton main battery on ISD II vs 2.8 petaton main battery on ISD I), but greater effectiveness against smaller ships. It also removed point-defense laser cannons in favor of more turbolasers, sacrificing effectiveness against starfighters for increased effectiveness against capital ships. It also added extra reinforcement for the hull, improved the deflector shields, improved communications, and added docking clamps to the ventral hangar bay. Overall, the ISD II was an improvement over the ISD I which reflected the fact that it was designed for peacetime, whereas the ISD I was designed for a peer war.
Realistically, the star destroyer is about 1.600 meters long. taking this into account i approximate that the star destroyer would cost anywhere between 1,000 to 2,000 camels.